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Tue Jun 23 06:40:31 2009 [imud_gossip] Fury@DontCare: all we here is pupu and caca 
Tue Jun 23 06:40:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Fury@DontCare: caca and pupu 
Tue Jun 23 06:40:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Fury@DontCare: pupu and caca 
Tue Jun 23 06:47:39 2009 [imud_gossip] Cozminsky@EotL: /ast 
Tue Jun 23 07:09:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: i did'nt know they stacked shit that high 
Tue Jun 23 07:10:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you trine to slip an inch in on me somewhere? 
Tue Jun 23 07:10:11 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: HUH?!? 
Tue Jun 23 07:10:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: you're like a midget next to me. stfu 
Tue Jun 23 07:11:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: a midget with punji stick booby traps and an ak47 
Tue Jun 23 07:11:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you die, joe 
Tue Jun 23 07:18:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: australia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YjrkBYDDQM 
Tue Jun 23 07:25:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Fury@DontCare: all you here is someone being a smart ass, radio pupu, radio caca 
Tue Jun 23 07:29:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Fury@DontCare: smoking is bad for your health 
Tue Jun 23 07:34:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: heh 
Tue Jun 23 07:34:26 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i like how he has to slow way the fuck down to spell cratylus 
Tue Jun 23 07:36:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: aus sign language must be different from usa 
Tue Jun 23 07:36:36 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: he's spelling shit i cant tell what it is 
Tue Jun 23 07:37:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: oh hes american 
Tue Jun 23 07:37:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: maybe he's drunk 
Tue Jun 23 07:42:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: lawl i just found a youtube of someone making fun of carls spelling 
Tue Jun 23 07:42:20 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i guess it's not just me 
Tue Jun 23 07:53:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: jesus christ 
Tue Jun 23 07:54:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i'm getting sucked into drama in the deafblind community looking into this guy 
Tue Jun 23 07:54:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: clearly it's my bedtime 
Tue Jun 23 07:55:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: =) 
Tue Jun 23 07:55:51 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: I'm so glad that you're visiting my place 
Tue Jun 23 07:56:36 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's horrible 
Tue Jun 23 07:56:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: I didn't have time to clean up 
Tue Jun 23 07:56:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: deafblind people and deaf people h8in on each other 
Tue Jun 23 07:57:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Whatnow? 
Tue Jun 23 07:57:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Is that what those Youtube videos are about? 
Tue Jun 23 07:57:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: naw fury was just being an ass 
Tue Jun 23 07:57:34 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i looked more deeply into his youtube than it merited 
Tue Jun 23 07:57:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: You soulgaze a Youtube 
Tue Jun 23 07:57:44 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: so check it out, there are vblogs 
Tue Jun 23 07:57:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: You never forget it 
Tue Jun 23 07:58:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: deaf people making youtubes, using sign language 
Tue Jun 23 07:58:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: sounds cool right? 
Tue Jun 23 07:58:26 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: looks pretty cool 
Tue Jun 23 07:58:31 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's like a whole "thing" 
Tue Jun 23 07:58:51 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: apparently there is some sort of friction tho 
Tue Jun 23 07:59:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: because the deafblind, part of the deaf community, cannot participate in that 
Tue Jun 23 07:59:32 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's too horrible to think about for a moment longer, i am going to bed 
Tue Jun 23 07:59:39 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Well, I'm not entirely sure how deafblind people even attempt to use Youtube 
Tue Jun 23 08:00:08 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: There is no program that automatically... what? Brailles them the content of a video? 
Tue Jun 23 09:01:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Fury@DontCare: you guys have too much time on your hands to be concerned with the plight of the deaf and blind, like they are not fucked up enough to begin with 
Tue Jun 23 09:02:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: If I ignored every person with a debilitating disease, I wouldn't be responding to you 
Tue Jun 23 12:40:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Duuk@Haven yawns sleepily. 
Tue Jun 23 12:41:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Tria@AoD TempMUD: I totaly agree 
Tue Jun 23 13:01:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i fappily agree 
Tue Jun 23 13:01:51 2009 [imud_gossip] Tria@AoD TempMUD: <- so tired I can't spell today. 
Tue Jun 23 13:34:44 2009 [imud_gossip] Duuk@Haven: Ed McMahon died! 
Tue Jun 23 14:20:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: The average IQ of people typing TLDR in Internet forums is about 64. 
Tue Jun 23 14:21:27 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole would add that to the current drama thread, but hasn't got an account on mudbytes 
Tue Jun 23 14:22:26 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: finally 
Tue Jun 23 14:37:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Duuk@Haven: I enjoy a good tl;dr response to a large, rambling rant. 
Tue Jun 23 14:50:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: which probably gives you an averag IQ of 32 
Tue Jun 23 14:50:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Duuk@Haven cheers. 
Tue Jun 23 14:52:07 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole wishes he'd made more gramatical and typographic errors in his previosu intergossip, for the lulz 
Tue Jun 23 14:53:27 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: just because you don't understand it doesn't make it a typo 
Tue Jun 23 15:02:57 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: treu 
Tue Jun 23 15:21:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: :( ed mcmahon 
Tue Jun 23 15:22:24 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: Mike McMahon :) 
Tue Jun 23 15:35:11 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: FF7 "It is roughly the equivalent of pleasuring your math professor with a broomhandle while listening to annoying Japanese synth music." 
Tue Jun 23 15:42:07 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: ed should have died with johnny like feudal samurai 
Tue Jun 23 16:12:36 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sepukku 
Tue Jun 23 16:14:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: he still had some Guffawing to do 
Tue Jun 23 16:14:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: first Guffaw, then Seppuku 
Tue Jun 23 16:14:57 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: then jay leno with the baby carriage 
Tue Jun 23 16:16:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: apparently there is a seppuku fetish 
Tue Jun 23 16:16:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i bet you have it 
Tue Jun 23 16:16:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i bet you wanted to be ed's "second" 
Tue Jun 23 16:16:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: http://lpmuds.net/seppuku_NSFW.gif 
Tue Jun 23 16:17:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@AoD TempMUD: ed didnt deserve a second, subjecting us all to those sweepstakes mailings. 
Tue Jun 23 16:19:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i refuse your link 
Tue Jun 23 16:19:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: it's either gross or ghey 
Tue Jun 23 16:20:36 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@AoD TempMUD: its not really either 
Tue Jun 23 16:21:04 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@AoD TempMUD: just a naked anime chick commiting seppuku 
Tue Jun 23 16:21:27 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: wtf? 
Tue Jun 23 16:30:16 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: dammit crat where am I gunna find a kawai chick to seppuku herself and satisfy my craving now? 
Tue Jun 23 16:30:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: kawaii 
Tue Jun 23 16:31:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: what's an eye between friends? 
Tue Jun 23 16:39:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: er prolly NSF but as it's a historical image you might get away with it 
Tue Jun 23 16:41:07 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@AoD TempMUD: though the domain name 'kinkydelight.com' might throw up some red flags 
Tue Jun 23 16:42:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: yeah I spose so 
Tue Jun 23 16:43:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i remember when you could only register polite names. a site about a kind of japanese mushrooms called shitake was in this kerfuffle cuz they couldnt get their name 
Tue Jun 23 16:43:13 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: now theres like, fuckmyass.com 
Tue Jun 23 16:44:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: lol "shitake" 
Tue Jun 23 16:44:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: =) 
Tue Jun 23 16:44:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: titicaca 
Tue Jun 23 16:45:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: Scunthorpe 
Tue Jun 23 16:46:47 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: stranegly fuckmyass.com has been registered and is an Adult dating sit 
Tue Jun 23 16:46:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: e 
Tue Jun 23 16:48:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Aransus@Pyloros: let the anus be your dating portal 
Tue Jun 23 18:12:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Sys@BlackHole: cool! tho I've seen photos of volcanic lightening from way before this year 
Tue Jun 23 19:07:37 2009 [imud_gossip] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Iranian germans??? 
Tue Jun 23 19:08:37 2009 [imud_gossip] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Ah! One o' those sites that cuts off the last set of chars. 
Tue Jun 23 19:30:34 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: so i downloaded Rosetta Stone.  anybody use it before? 
Tue Jun 23 19:30:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: kinda 
Tue Jun 23 19:30:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: no but is sposed to be on par with pimsleur 
Tue Jun 23 19:31:00 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: I started it up, said "hey that's keen" and haven't started it up again. 
Tue Jun 23 19:31:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: Depends on the language... the japanese program is terrible. 
Tue Jun 23 19:31:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: well, my understanding is rosetta stone is supposed to be more interactive 
Tue Jun 23 19:31:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: vs just listening to tapes 
Tue Jun 23 19:31:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: I got 10 lessons into pimsleur spanish, and got bored. 
Tue Jun 23 19:31:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: The idea behind it is intriguing, but it really doesn`t work for some languages... just learning random words by looking at pictures isn`t that helpful in some languages 
Tue Jun 23 19:32:18 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: that's all there is? 
Tue Jun 23 19:32:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: there's a slight foray into abstract ideas 
Tue Jun 23 19:32:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: There`s other stuff, like a barely useful feature where you record yourself and it tells you how well you are pronouncing words 
Tue Jun 23 19:32:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: but for the most part the words -> pictures is all I saw 
Tue Jun 23 19:33:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: I never got it to work well though. 
Tue Jun 23 19:35:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: Basically, the whole scam is that they sell you on the idea that you can learn a new language by doing that.... to some extent that is true, in that you can learn new words, but to actually learn a language you really do just have to bite the bullet and get some sort of instruction or interact with people that speak it. I really don`t think there is any proof that anyone has ever learned a language from Rosetta Stone in the 12 or so years it`s been available 
Tue Jun 23 19:35:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: what the cunt 
Tue Jun 23 19:36:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you dont just listen to pimsleur 
Tue Jun 23 19:36:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you have to do the exercises 
Tue Jun 23 19:37:01 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: You know, the best way to do it is just to use it as another tool in your belt... you can use it, but don`t rely on it only. 
Tue Jun 23 19:37:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: rosetta stone is only good for building vocabulary 
Tue Jun 23 19:37:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Aransus@Pyloros: i used pimsleur levels 1-3 for italian, and rosetta stone only a little. pimsleur seemed much more interested with getting to practical conversation quickly. 
Tue Jun 23 19:37:57 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: you cannot learn a language using only rosetta stone 
Tue Jun 23 19:38:24 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: yeah, bobby learned to speak stupid by practicing all the time 
Tue Jun 23 19:38:44 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: wait are you the nanvaent guy i hate? 
Tue Jun 23 19:38:52 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: don't you hate all of us 
Tue Jun 23 19:38:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Aransus@Pyloros: with rosetta stone, a couple lessons in i could remark on a ball being under an airplane. with pimsleur, you can greet people and order alcohol. 
Tue Jun 23 19:38:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: who's the one always going on about how high he is? 
Tue Jun 23 19:39:16 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: yeah, pimsleur teaches you practical things much more quickly 
Tue Jun 23 19:39:18 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i <3 pimsleur 
Tue Jun 23 19:39:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Cain@AoD TempMUD: im high 
Tue Jun 23 19:39:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: i don't know anybody like that here, but i've had this channel muffed for months 
Tue Jun 23 19:39:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: ok then sorry 
Tue Jun 23 19:39:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Cain@AoD TempMUD: im high on life!!! oh yeah go me! 
Tue Jun 23 19:39:52 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: wrong guy 
Tue Jun 23 19:40:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Cain@AoD TempMUD: whats dead souls ip? 
Tue Jun 23 19:40:44 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev eeeeeees. 
Tue Jun 23 19:41:00 2009 [imud_gossip] Aransus@Pyloros: i found pimsleur to be much more useful if you check out grammar/spelling stuff on the side 
Tue Jun 23 19:41:04 2009 [imud_gossip] Aransus@Pyloros: but even alone it's pretty useful 
Tue Jun 23 19:41:08 2009 [imud_gossip] Aidil@Way of the Force: 0.0.0.0 
Tue Jun 23 19:42:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: ah cratylus were you think of nova? 
Tue Jun 23 19:42:20 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: There`s this company I really like for language stuff, they do a whole bunch of podcasts and have hundreds of lessons per language... the one I liked was japanesepod101.com, but there`s other languages too (like chinesepod101, spanishpod101) 
Tue Jun 23 19:42:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: thinking* 
Tue Jun 23 19:42:36 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: how expensive was it? 
Tue Jun 23 19:42:37 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: It`s free too if you just want the latest lessons 
Tue Jun 23 19:43:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: It`s like 8 dollars for a basic account that gives you access to the lesson archive 
Tue Jun 23 19:43:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: a month? 
Tue Jun 23 19:44:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: The premium account is kind of expensive but it gives you lots of pdf info... so what I did was got the premium account for 1 month and just downloaded EVERYTHING 
Tue Jun 23 19:44:20 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: how does it compare to pimsleur? 
Tue Jun 23 19:44:24 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: are the rosetta stone lessons time based?  or do you just click through at your own base? 
Tue Jun 23 19:44:30 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: self pased 
Tue Jun 23 19:44:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: Pimsleur spanish is castilliano and not mehicano 
Tue Jun 23 19:44:37 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: er pace 
Tue Jun 23 19:44:52 2009 [imud_gossip] Aransus@Pyloros: as i recall you have the option to set a timer if that's your bag 
Tue Jun 23 19:44:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: I`ve used pimsleur, they are pretty similar, except that there`s just a lot MORE of the lessons on japanesepod, and it`s less expensive in comparison 
Tue Jun 23 19:45:01 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: you need Mexican, not Spanish, duh 
Tue Jun 23 19:45:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: I have pimsleur already 
Tue Jun 23 19:45:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: well, rosetta stone has 'spain' spanish and latin america spanish 
Tue Jun 23 19:45:19 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: doesn't pimsleur have a latin america spanish? 
Tue Jun 23 19:45:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Dirty Spanish 
Tue Jun 23 19:45:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: It`s also pretty useful being able to talk with other people on the forums about their lessons and stuff... it gets you more used to communicating 
Tue Jun 23 19:46:04 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: I can talk to people in foreign languages anywhere on the internet 
Tue Jun 23 19:46:08 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: Although, the forums might actually be free, I don`t remember 
Tue Jun 23 19:46:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: parlais vous francais? 
Tue Jun 23 19:46:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@AoD TempMUD: je mange mon chat 
Tue Jun 23 19:46:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: That`s my best advice though... just download some of the free lessons and see if you like them 
Tue Jun 23 19:46:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: maybe i will. 
Tue Jun 23 19:47:09 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: it sounds like with rosetta stone, i'd be as good off just reading a dictionary 
Tue Jun 23 19:52:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: Well... nothing beats a trip to the actual country. :D 
Tue Jun 23 19:53:19 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: it's not that bad, it's just not the complete language learning solution they market it as 
Tue Jun 23 19:56:57 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: well, i live in a spanish speaking country already 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: oh right, you are succeeding from the union 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:16 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: most of the southwestern states have large immigrant populations 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:19 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: Sorry, I think I missed it earlier, which country is it? 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:20 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Tejas 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: I live in Texas. 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Tejas 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:24 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: Oh, sorry... I`m american, I haven`t heard of any other countries. XD 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:26 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: We're still a part of the union, with no plans of leaving 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:27 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: No plans? 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:28 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: heh 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:30 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: in a poll, 75% of the state said they would'nt agree with a move to leave the union 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:32 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: that's where all my ex's live 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: that leaves 25% with plans 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:34 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: that's why you hang your hat in tennessee. 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:37 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: I bet crat has a scraming eagle tatooed across his chest 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:39 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: A true patriot 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: in any poll, 25% of the people are crazy 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:41 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: or 25% of the people are sane and the rest are nuts 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: at his absolute crummiest, bush had around 25% support. congress has about 25% support 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:44 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: that's the crazy people number 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's effectively 0 support 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: bush had better support than congress still has 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:47 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: at his lowest 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: our democrat controlled congress 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: Has congressional support ever been higher than that though? 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: i thought congress got down to single digits? 
Tue Jun 23 19:59:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: even the crazy people hate congress 
Tue Jun 23 20:00:01 2009 [imud_gossip] Bobby@Nanvaent: well your governor mentioned it so he must be one of the crazies 
Tue Jun 23 20:00:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: I've wanted Perry out for years.  But he's started trying to court the grassroots movement 
Tue Jun 23 20:00:04 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: I'm also sad that Hutchison is coming home to challenge him for his seat, as she was kind of useful where she was. 
Tue Jun 23 20:36:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Aidil@Way of the Force: flame flame burn burn. 
Tue Jun 23 20:37:44 2009 [imud_gossip] Aidil@Way of the Force: that approx summarizes my last hour of tmc and similar forums reading. 
Tue Jun 23 20:42:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: TMS is particularly `flamey` right now, lol 
Tue Jun 23 20:42:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: Lots of legalese stuff... 
Tue Jun 23 20:45:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: .Peace and Security through Disarmament. 
Tue Jun 23 20:46:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: Sounds pretty contradictory to everything we know about realtity 
Tue Jun 23 20:46:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Vardogr@Spiritshift Dev: I have no problems with real tity. 
Tue Jun 23 21:13:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Warmonger@Nanvaent: I have a huge penis 
Tue Jun 23 21:14:52 2009 [imud_gossip] Tria@AoD TempMUD: if you have to marvel, then you are likely looking at it thru a magnifying lens ;) 
Tue Jun 23 21:15:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Warmonger@Nanvaent: yeah, it really isn't huge. It is just fun to say. 
Tue Jun 23 23:03:25 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: http://www.pvponline.com/ 
Wed Jun 24 00:04:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: so i have a friend who tells me i need to do some thing called 'P90X' 
Wed Jun 24 00:04:26 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: anybody familiar with it? 
Wed Jun 24 00:04:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: looks like some sort of fitness program 
Wed Jun 24 00:04:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: is that anything like ID10T? 
Wed Jun 24 00:07:57 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's a walther 
Wed Jun 24 00:08:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: it's a moray? 
Wed Jun 24 00:14:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: heh 
Wed Jun 24 00:15:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: thats the P90 or PS90 
Wed Jun 24 00:31:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: sound like theyre simmering down in persia 
Wed Jun 24 00:31:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: just as well 
Wed Jun 24 00:31:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: an orgy of blood wuda done no good 
Wed Jun 24 00:31:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: all the people you love in a river of blood 
Wed Jun 24 00:33:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: and don't forget the guns 
Wed Jun 24 00:33:39 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: PPK? 
Wed Jun 24 00:33:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Power Puff Klan? 
Wed Jun 24 00:34:24 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: don't you know it bitch 
Wed Jun 24 00:34:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: I do, whore 
Wed Jun 24 00:44:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: my god 
Wed Jun 24 00:45:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i just saw something that made me go O_O 
Wed Jun 24 00:45:13 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: was it the 3.2 patch notes 
Wed Jun 24 00:45:18 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: that too 
Wed Jun 24 00:45:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: they certainly made me go O_O 
Wed Jun 24 00:45:28 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: no, the size of a full db backup 
Wed Jun 24 00:45:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: 95TB 
Wed Jun 24 00:46:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: that's rigoddamneddiculous 
Wed Jun 24 00:47:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: I bet it's all the text in mail. :p 
Wed Jun 24 00:48:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: haha it is a possibility 
Wed Jun 24 00:48:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: that's just one site tho 
Wed Jun 24 00:48:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: there are 7 sites in total 
Wed Jun 24 00:48:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: thats just ridiculous 
Wed Jun 24 00:49:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: no wonder you can't keep them running more than 24 hours at a time 
Wed Jun 24 00:49:41 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: psh 
Wed Jun 24 00:50:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: with the exception of a handful of servers (and one site in particular that is having NFS issues) everything was up for a week straight going into this week's restarts 
Wed Jun 24 00:50:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: so is it just accepted that there will be regularly scheduled restarts or are people actually trying to get better uptimes? 
Wed Jun 24 00:50:51 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: accepted for 3 years now :p 
Wed Jun 24 00:51:01 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: show me one mmo that doesnt have weekly maintenance 
Wed Jun 24 00:51:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: :) 
Wed Jun 24 00:51:16 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: EQ2 
Wed Jun 24 00:51:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: they have maintenance 
Wed Jun 24 00:51:36 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: they just dont always have to take the servers down because they have 1/10th of our playerbase online 
Wed Jun 24 00:51:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: They even get their game updates right the first time :) 
Wed Jun 24 00:51:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: maintainence that doesn't require taking the servers down :P 
Wed Jun 24 00:51:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: see above 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: its easy to do maintenance when your servers are idle all the time 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:05 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: MSN doesn't go down as often as Wow 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:08 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: and that's Microsoft 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: msn isn't an mmo either 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: it's a static content delivery system 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Hotmail is FAR more complex than wow 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:30 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: but they probably have bigger databases and more concurrent connections 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: it is? really? 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: lawl, i love when people who have no idea what they're talking about try to discuss the difficulties in running a game :P 
Wed Jun 24 00:52:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Hotmail has an easter egg of a wow client done in ajax 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:18 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: so grats, your mail delivery system is complex *highfive* 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:20 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: a game i can't play because the servers are always being "maintained" ;) 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:24 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: you should replace hotmail with Maildir and IMP. 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:32 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: I'm sure it would work OK. 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: damn it, I didn't pay a cent for this game and I want 100% uptime! 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:37 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: lol 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:41 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: :) 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: to answer your question, they're obviously always going for 100% uptime 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: if you want to talk about database throughput and availability, it's banks you want to look at 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: but at this point it's not possible with our hardware 
Wed Jun 24 00:53:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: if banks can do it, why can't blizzard! 
Wed Jun 24 00:54:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: and we have fairly top end hardware 
Wed Jun 24 00:54:17 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: short of spending millions of dollars on servers, which is rather pointless if you think about it 
Wed Jun 24 00:54:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: I don't know, I hate how long it takes for actual credit card charge descriptions to be reflected on my account, when the balance updates instantly 
Wed Jun 24 00:54:36 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: sorry, hundreds of millions of dollars* 
Wed Jun 24 00:54:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Why MSN can have "99.999%" availability: redundant server clusters that can be swapped around ... and the fact you don't know if you're hitting server A, B, or ZZZ :) 
Wed Jun 24 00:54:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: If Blizzard can make a dwarf dance on the AH bridge, why can't my bank get their VISA data right 
Wed Jun 24 00:54:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: right 
Wed Jun 24 00:55:05 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: and that's not possible with the way wow servers are set up 
Wed Jun 24 00:55:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: maybe the problem is that you're buying the wrong sort of hardware salius 
Wed Jun 24 00:55:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: You should buy one big database server instead of multiple smaller servers! 
Wed Jun 24 00:55:30 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: you should host WoW in the cloud. 
Wed Jun 24 00:55:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: actually each site is connected to a single DB 
Wed Jun 24 00:55:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: Just set your partition key to be ServerName-PlayerName 
Wed Jun 24 00:55:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: thats exactly how it's set up :) 
Wed Jun 24 00:55:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: and let microsoft solve your problems! 
Wed Jun 24 00:56:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: dbs are set up per site, so roughly 25 servers to a db 
Wed Jun 24 00:56:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: and all the info is stored in a single schema 
Wed Jun 24 00:56:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: site.realm.(whatever) 
Wed Jun 24 00:56:34 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: you should connect all of your servers to one database 
Wed Jun 24 00:56:41 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: and let it do every transaction! 
Wed Jun 24 00:56:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: not possible, due to lag 
Wed Jun 24 00:56:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: see the funny thing is 
Wed Jun 24 00:56:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: well, you could colocate every server in the one building 
Wed Jun 24 00:57:04 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: the issue with wow isnt alwyas processing power, but pure bandwidth 
Wed Jun 24 00:57:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: each datacenter has 2 (or 3) 10gig connections 
Wed Jun 24 00:57:28 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: and during peak they're usually damn near capped 
Wed Jun 24 00:57:48 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: the aussie ones in particular because that datacenter is never "offpeak" 
Wed Jun 24 00:57:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: aren't we talking about downtime though? 
Wed Jun 24 00:58:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: downtime is just to run db scripts usually 
Wed Jun 24 00:58:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: the problem is the db servers cant handle the additional load for cleanups during peak time 
Wed Jun 24 00:58:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: even offpeak it causes lag 
Wed Jun 24 00:58:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: You should shoot your DBA's into the sun 
Wed Jun 24 00:58:37 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: and they use pretty massive db servers 
Wed Jun 24 00:58:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: they're sun servers, not sure what models or whatever 
Wed Jun 24 00:59:13 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i think 64 cpu setups, couple terabytes of ram 
Wed Jun 24 00:59:39 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: so where is the design deficiency that means you can't do hot maintenance? 
Wed Jun 24 00:59:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i know that most of the data is actually written to a ramdisk on a proxy, then written to the databases at a later period of time 
Wed Jun 24 00:59:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: pure load 
Wed Jun 24 00:59:51 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: thats the problem... slowaris! 
Wed Jun 24 00:59:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: its just not possible 
Wed Jun 24 00:59:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: it can't be load 
Wed Jun 24 01:00:08 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: because there are databases that do a lot more work and have to do hot maintenance 
Wed Jun 24 01:00:19 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: they're also not game databases :P 
Wed Jun 24 01:00:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i'm sorry you don't understand it, and i honestly don't either, i'm not a dba 
Wed Jun 24 01:00:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: meaning they were actually designed for load ;) 
Wed Jun 24 01:00:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: what does that mean? they've been specifically denormalised? 
Wed Jun 24 01:00:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: but i know for about a year, like 8 months or so we did live maintenance 
Wed Jun 24 01:01:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: well, if your databases aren't designed with hot maintenance in mind, then just say that 
Wed Jun 24 01:01:09 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: but there's really no reason why they couldn't be 
Wed Jun 24 01:01:11 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i honestly dont know 
Wed Jun 24 01:01:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i'm not a dba :P 
Wed Jun 24 01:01:27 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: I'm not a dba either, I still have all my hair 
Wed Jun 24 01:01:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i know that as it is, live maintenance causes lag that is outside of our acceptable limits 
Wed Jun 24 01:02:09 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: and we'd rather take the servers down for 3-6 hours to do the maintenance than run scripts that take 6-8 hours to run and cause everyone to lag or dc :P 
Wed Jun 24 01:02:41 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: note that most "hot maintenance" causes lag intermittently 
Wed Jun 24 01:02:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: but that lag is acceptable, because it's just transactions 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: in this case, it's a player standing at a corpse unable to loot because of lag 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: but 8 hours to run cleanup scripts on unloaded dbs?  shame... 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:09 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: hundreds of thousands of transactions a second 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:19 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: Never stop transacting, don't ever stop. 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:30 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: you should be running sql server on windows datacenter servers 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:34 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: fuck that sun crap 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: lawl windows 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: funny thing tho 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: a while back we did have windows based gameservers 
Wed Jun 24 01:03:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: No, you should be running your databases inside a partitioned IBM mainframe :p 
Wed Jun 24 01:04:01 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: and they ran like ass 
Wed Jun 24 01:04:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: [I agree fuck that sun crap] 
Wed Jun 24 01:04:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: the game servers run linux 
Wed Jun 24 01:04:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: the db servers are oracle dbs 
Wed Jun 24 01:04:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i believe they run on solaris, but i cannot say that with certainty 
Wed Jun 24 01:05:19 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: and obviously i cant get into too many specifics.  never know if someone here is going to try to find some vulnerability in whatever i name off :p 
Wed Jun 24 01:05:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: protip: Don't expose your DB servers to the internet 
Wed Jun 24 01:05:46 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: they're not ;) 
Wed Jun 24 01:06:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i believe the auth and game servers are the only actual internet available servers 
Wed Jun 24 01:06:18 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: everything else is all private network 
Wed Jun 24 01:06:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: I was thrilled to discover that lotro exposes its entire login system as an ASMX web service 
Wed Jun 24 01:07:00 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: you can even request login tokens and shit from it to pass to the game client:p 
Wed Jun 24 01:08:39 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: lol 
Wed Jun 24 01:08:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: i keep telling them to just get ibm to build them a bluegene system 
Wed Jun 24 01:08:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: Unless you mean an exploit like naming my warlock DROP ALL TABLES; 
Wed Jun 24 01:09:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Pso@Discworld: sorry if someone already made that joke, my internet dropped out :p 
Wed Jun 24 01:11:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Taffyd@Discworld: little bobby tables v blizzard entertainment 
Wed Jun 24 01:14:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: Electricity and Magnetism 
Wed Jun 24 01:14:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: What is the difference between an electric field and a magnetic field? 
Wed Jun 24 01:16:09 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: columbs squared per joule 
Wed Jun 24 01:16:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: why i do i bother reading this shit 
Wed Jun 24 01:16:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: "cause youre an idiot." 
Wed Jun 24 01:17:07 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: "ohhhh yeah." 
Wed Jun 24 01:28:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: drop database; is more fun. 
Wed Jun 24 01:29:16 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: DROP YOUR DATABASE 
Wed Jun 24 01:29:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: FOR GREAT FUN 
Wed Jun 24 01:30:16 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: truncate database; is better 
Wed Jun 24 01:30:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: no transaction to roll back 
Wed Jun 24 01:35:00 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QS2: FOR GREAT JUSTICE 
Wed Jun 24 01:36:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: huh? 
Wed Jun 24 01:37:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QS2: TAKE OFF EVERY ZIG 
Wed Jun 24 01:37:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: um... ok? 
Wed Jun 24 01:39:18 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QS2: for databases. 
Wed Jun 24 01:39:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: woot! classic mac on the net! 
Wed Jun 24 01:41:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QS2: where? 
Wed Jun 24 01:41:32 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: here :) 
Wed Jun 24 01:42:34 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: funny thing is that i'm using a wireless bridge since i don't have TP out to this desk... so the computer is sitting next to a piece of hardware with more power and all it does is bridge net traffic :) 
Wed Jun 24 01:43:16 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i can play Dark Castle and mud at the same time! 
Wed Jun 24 01:44:13 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: dark.... castle 
Wed Jun 24 01:44:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: jealous? 
Wed Jun 24 01:45:14 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: yeah, i sure with *I* had a time machine set for the mid-eighties 
Wed Jun 24 01:46:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: it's called e-bay 
Wed Jun 24 01:46:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: here - lemme relive the days by going out back, picking up some rocks, and hucking them at some local crows 
Wed Jun 24 01:46:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: BRIGANDS 
Wed Jun 24 01:46:37 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: so, in summation, yes - i AM jealous 
Wed Jun 24 01:46:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: there's always emu... 
Wed Jun 24 01:47:13 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: and i heard its better for you than chicken 
Wed Jun 24 01:47:24 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: badum-bum 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: tryin to think of the other "castle-y" game 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:20 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: dont remember much bout it 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: dark tower 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:27 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: with the BRIGANDS 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: a castle... a torch... a ghost or something... 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:34 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: you mean ur mom? 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:40 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i found a flash emulator of it a while back 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: i have that for gameboy 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:47 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: um... no, i dont htink it was my mom 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:56 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: it was a computer game, first i saw it was on th mac, i think 
Wed Jun 24 02:42:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: can't remember the name. 
Wed Jun 24 02:43:05 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: it's like ZOMG A ROPE 
Wed Jun 24 02:43:06 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: castle of fu manchu 
Wed Jun 24 02:43:07 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: actually, i think i got that GB port, too 
Wed Jun 24 02:43:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: heh, ya 
Wed Jun 24 02:43:17 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: ZOMG a spell upside down on the wall 
Wed Jun 24 02:43:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: if you remember it, dont tell me 
Wed Jun 24 02:43:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: ima try n think of it 
Wed Jun 24 02:46:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: shadow something? 
Wed Jun 24 02:47:00 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: shafow gate? 
Wed Jun 24 02:47:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: heh, yeha - i think that was it 
Wed Jun 24 02:48:15 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: hmm, wonder if ggamefaqs has a walkthrough 
Wed Jun 24 02:48:43 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: yknow what was awesome on th mac? 
Wed Jun 24 02:48:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: fool's errand 
Wed Jun 24 02:48:50 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: your mom? 
Wed Jun 24 02:49:05 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: and my mom, yes. she was awesome on the mac 
Wed Jun 24 02:49:10 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape snickers. 
Wed Jun 24 02:50:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: heh - the skeleton standing in shark-infested waters with the key in its hand 
Wed Jun 24 02:50:53 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: think you had to drop a freezy-orb ito th water or something 
Wed Jun 24 02:51:44 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: i wonder at what point these kinda games went from "you made a mistake, now you must start all the way over again" to "no, we won't let you do that, find some other way to solve this puzzle" 
Wed Jun 24 03:03:31 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: heh - im playing a CGA version thats using the internal speaker for sound 
Wed Jun 24 03:04:02 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: OH EM GEE! black n white AND cyan and magenta! WOAH! 
Wed Jun 24 03:04:26 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: OH EM GEE! You can't see mee! 
Wed Jun 24 03:04:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: went two rooms in, torch went out, i died 
Wed Jun 24 03:05:04 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: GAME OVER, man! 
Wed Jun 24 03:05:07 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: GAME OVER! 
Wed Jun 24 03:05:08 2009 [imud_gossip] Shadyman@QuantumScape: lewl 
Wed Jun 24 03:23:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: again - i want some kida Advanced Technology that makes all video n audio sync up, no matter if you pause it or whatever 
Wed Jun 24 03:24:25 2009 [imud_gossip] Fury@DontCare: Pupu 
Wed Jun 24 03:25:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: then again, i guess that watching a youtube video of bruce lee fight kareem abdul jabar doesnt really NEED perfectly synched sound 
Wed Jun 24 03:43:00 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: fapfapfapfapfapfap 
Wed Jun 24 03:47:04 2009 [imud_gossip] Presto@Discworld: Richard Nixon is the gift that keeps on giving 
Wed Jun 24 03:47:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: fap 
Wed Jun 24 03:48:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Presto@Discworld: new tapes: "There are times when abortions are necessary -- I know that. . . . Suppose you have a black and a white, or a rape." 
Wed Jun 24 04:16:42 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: everyone knows black and white sucks 
Wed Jun 24 04:16:47 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: 32 bit color ftw 
Wed Jun 24 04:17:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: evryone knows it's windy 
Wed Jun 24 07:25:29 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Yo Gabba Gabba! 
Wed Jun 24 07:25:39 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: gabba gabba hey 
Wed Jun 24 13:14:57 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: fap 
Wed Jun 24 13:16:13 2009 [imud_gossip] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Right on time, as usual. 
Wed Jun 24 13:59:13 2009 [imud_gossip] Duuk@Haven: about time, new oots 
Wed Jun 24 14:01:19 2009 [imud_gossip] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: what? Dammit, a hour ago it wasn't there yet. 
Wed Jun 24 14:11:25 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: magic 
Wed Jun 24 15:39:07 2009 [imud_gossip] Duuk@Haven: Spooky. 
Wed Jun 24 15:40:52 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: dern roy 
Wed Jun 24 15:47:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: OMG... Michael Schumacher is The Stig! 
Wed Jun 24 16:33:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: =) 
Wed Jun 24 17:04:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: secks 
Wed Jun 24 17:23:20 2009 [imud_gossip] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: crunchy 
Wed Jun 24 18:35:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: I doubt schumacher is the stig 
Wed Jun 24 21:12:54 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: yeah, I still don't believe it 
Wed Jun 24 21:14:25 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: the beeb might have deep pockets, but they wouldn't go for ferrying him around a few times a month to keep up with his 'real' job 
Wed Jun 24 21:59:31 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: After the show, a BBC spokeswoman would not confirm whether or not Schumacher was the genuine Stig, or a stunt to mark the first episode of a new series of Top Gear. 
Wed Jun 24 21:59:32 2009 [imud_gossip] Zaknafein@Mystic: "You have to bear in mind that Top Gear is an entertainment programme. We never reveal who or what The Stig is," she said. 
Wed Jun 24 21:59:35 2009 [imud_gossip] Hellmonger@Trilogy: AXE WOUND 
Wed Jun 24 22:40:49 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: ketchup mine 
Wed Jun 24 22:50:28 2009 [imud_gossip] Aransus@Pyloros: one pill makes you larger and the other makes you small 
Wed Jun 24 22:53:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: i dont think ive ever gotten email for the latter 
Wed Jun 24 23:19:21 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: i didnt know they was makin more spinal tap music 
Wed Jun 24 23:19:33 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld: SAUCY JACK 
Wed Jun 24 23:19:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld: YOU'RE A HAUGHTY ONE 
Wed Jun 24 23:19:55 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: yeah, just heard a clip form that on rockband music store 
Wed Jun 24 23:20:03 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: dint sound too bad, actually 
Wed Jun 24 23:20:05 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld: it's freely downloadable from their website :D 
Wed Jun 24 23:20:12 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld: it's shit, imo 
Wed Jun 24 23:20:18 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld has both their studio albums 
Wed Jun 24 23:20:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: well, compared to the ORGINAL stuff, sure 
Wed Jun 24 23:20:26 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld: :) 
Wed Jun 24 23:20:44 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: dint they do "break liek th wind" some years later or something? 
Wed Jun 24 23:20:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld: yup 
Wed Jun 24 23:21:01 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld: brilliant albm 
Wed Jun 24 23:21:11 2009 [imud_gossip] Tique@Discworld: has some really excellent (and hilarious) collaborations 
Wed Jun 24 23:37:36 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: not tryin to sound like a Hater here, but yknow what makes christianity Better than judaism or islam? 
Wed Jun 24 23:37:47 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: pork 
Wed Jun 24 23:37:52 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: and lots of it 
Wed Jun 24 23:38:05 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: gimme that fuckin pig ima chew al over it 
Wed Jun 24 23:38:13 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: ill give ya a hint: it starts with the letter 'b' 
Wed Jun 24 23:38:23 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: cmon man 
Wed Jun 24 23:38:26 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you an me 
Wed Jun 24 23:38:31 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: we could eat that pig 
Wed Jun 24 23:38:59 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: we can totally eat that pig 
Wed Jun 24 23:44:09 2009 [imud_gossip] Newt@ShadowMUDii Dev: blood? 
Wed Jun 24 23:51:22 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: bingo 
Wed Jun 24 23:51:25 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: on saturday nights 
Wed Jun 24 23:51:31 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's more fun than it sounds 
Wed Jun 24 23:51:58 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: some of those blue haired grannies get *competitive* man 
Wed Jun 24 23:52:08 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: buy a dozen cards, talk back to the caller 
Wed Jun 24 23:52:20 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: woebetide the bingo caller not on his toes 
Wed Jun 24 23:52:38 2009 [imud_gossip] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's *vicious*, a cutthroat game of cat and mouse 
Wed Jun 24 23:55:45 2009 [imud_gossip] Salius@Lost Legends: fap 
Wed Jun 24 23:58:17 2009 [imud_gossip] Xyzzy@Dead Souls Dev: JOZXYQK 
Thu Jun 25 00:16:51 2009 [imud_gossip] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: you know what i love about vacation?  reading my work email an not having to care that the shit is hitting the fan :) 
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