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Thu Oct 15 13:54:45 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: still can't. 
Thu Oct 15 13:54:48 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: lemme get back to you. 
Thu Oct 15 14:44:37 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: lemons 
Thu Oct 15 14:45:38 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: was doing some thinking 
Thu Oct 15 14:45:56 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: about this lpc optimization thingy 
Thu Oct 15 14:46:02 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: lpc can be optimized? 
Thu Oct 15 14:46:10 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: only in Sil's mind 
Thu Oct 15 14:46:16 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i think i have some thoughts 
Thu Oct 15 14:46:22 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: see? 
Thu Oct 15 14:46:29 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: which but 
Thu Oct 15 14:46:39 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: I always thougth it was a ducttape/superglue kinda system... patch and move forward 
Thu Oct 15 14:46:41 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: which might work 
Thu Oct 15 14:47:08 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: but i am not sure if i will have the time to implement it 
Thu Oct 15 14:47:20 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: what to do .... :D 
Thu Oct 15 14:47:32 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: implement it, of course. :P 
Thu Oct 15 14:48:04 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i figure i could use a combination of type inference and interprocedural analysis + caching to get around some of the common cases 
Thu Oct 15 14:48:25 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: obviously the general case would still be pretty slow 
Thu Oct 15 14:48:31 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: but it could speed up alot of stuff 
Thu Oct 15 14:49:16 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: sigh dunno doing the implementation fully could take months 
Thu Oct 15 17:31:20 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: long read, but really interesting 
Thu Oct 15 17:45:32 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Morning, people! 
Thu Oct 15 17:45:46 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice gets his bug spray. 
Thu Oct 15 17:46:13 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I had a random question... is the actual source code for this mud in C? 
Thu Oct 15 17:46:29 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: the driver is 
Thu Oct 15 17:46:32 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: the mudlib is, obviously, in LPC 
Thu Oct 15 17:46:58 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: And the driver (Yeah, I knew about the mudlib), is what handles like... combat, character creation, etc. right? 
Thu Oct 15 17:47:07 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: nope, that's the lib 
Thu Oct 15 17:47:40 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Ahh... okay, that makes sense, I suppose. What does the driver actually handle? 
Thu Oct 15 17:47:42 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: the driver handles filesystem access, sockets, timing (call_out, heart_beat),etc, the scripting host (for LPC)  
Thu Oct 15 17:47:58 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: all the efuns are implemented in the driver in C 
Thu Oct 15 17:48:05 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: So basically, no one touches that ever... and just plays with the mudlib, then? 
Thu Oct 15 17:48:14 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: so it's the platform on which you build the mud 
Thu Oct 15 17:48:21 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: most sane people, yeah :) 
Thu Oct 15 17:48:41 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: people like wodan, myself, silenus and crat hack a bit further ;) 
Thu Oct 15 17:48:46 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: we're all quite unstable mentally 
Thu Oct 15 17:49:14 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: So if one wanted to work on actually getting things done as far as learning more C/C++, I'd have to play with the actual driver? 
Thu Oct 15 17:49:32 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: well, if you're wanting to learn C/C++ I wouldn't use the driver as a playground 
Thu Oct 15 17:49:57 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I guess I'm just looking for a project to tinker with to work on learning C/C++ more... and I don't know where to find something like that... that's still supported. 
Thu Oct 15 17:50:10 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: it's not what you would call 'clean' nor is it easy to wrap you head around since it's a rather complex bit of software 
Thu Oct 15 17:50:29 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: there are TONS of resources on the web for learning C/C++ 
Thu Oct 15 17:50:52 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: and i'd start with a much simpler project, like Tetris 
Thu Oct 15 17:50:55 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Aye, tutorials and whantot, but the way I learn best is working with other people, usually backwards engineering things until I can work forwards on them. 
Thu Oct 15 17:51:01 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Tetris? 
Thu Oct 15 17:51:12 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: oi! 
Thu Oct 15 17:51:23 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Yeah, writing Tetris is a great project 
Thu Oct 15 17:51:32 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: In a graphical sense? Or write it in full text format? 
Thu Oct 15 17:51:50 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: simple rules and relies on a bunch of different techniques 
Thu Oct 15 17:52:01 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i'd suggest graphical :) 
Thu Oct 15 17:52:21 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: pretty easy with SDL 
Thu Oct 15 17:53:32 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: If I were to do that, should I use an actual GUI IDE? or just do it in something like Notepad++ or Bluefish? Or would it make a difference. I'm mainly an Ubuntu user, though I can go either way, depending on my desktop or laptop. 
Thu Oct 15 17:54:46 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: And another random question... do you think I should go with C? or Java? as my main language? 
Thu Oct 15 17:55:44 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: for IDE's alot of ppl swear by eclipse 
Thu Oct 15 17:56:31 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: I just use a simple syntax highlighting text editor though 
Thu Oct 15 17:56:34 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I've used Eclipse before, for sure. I used it to develop Java stuff for a class for a while. My project then was to get a checker game.. 
Thu Oct 15 17:57:22 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: as for the java C question it really depends on what you want to do 
Thu Oct 15 17:57:40 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I'm sorta preparing myself to go for a Master's in Software Engineering. 
Thu Oct 15 17:57:55 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: what is your undergrad in? 
Thu Oct 15 17:58:01 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Mathematics. 
Thu Oct 15 17:58:09 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: hmm ok. 
Thu Oct 15 17:58:22 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, I know... it's a bit weird... but it would help me career-wise quite a bit. 
Thu Oct 15 17:58:24 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well C is better to learn in some ways 
Thu Oct 15 17:58:38 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: And there is no programming classes here, our computer department is nonexistant. 
Thu Oct 15 17:58:44 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: because you are forced to wrestle with alot of issues which java does for you automatically 
Thu Oct 15 17:58:47 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Other than Visual Basic... 
Thu Oct 15 17:59:04 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Okay, I'll stick with C.. and I'm assuming, that's better to start with than C++? 
Thu Oct 15 17:59:29 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i think C++ is better for beginners though it's more complex if you get deep into it than C 
Thu Oct 15 17:59:53 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Okay, that makes sense. And I have another random question about your guys' work on the driver. What are you guys doing to it right now? 
Thu Oct 15 17:59:56 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: C is a much simpler language but harder to do certain things 
Thu Oct 15 18:00:10 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: Wodan is the driver maintainer 
Thu Oct 15 18:00:20 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: Kal and Crat have contributed some fixes 
Thu Oct 15 18:00:23 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: C is procedural, C++ is object-oriented... 
Thu Oct 15 18:00:32 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: brain needs to work to grasp more concepts with C++ 
Thu Oct 15 18:00:47 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i just sometimes toy with it 
Thu Oct 15 18:00:57 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: and also work on my own driver (sometimes) 
Thu Oct 15 18:01:02 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: for a small project, C is better...for large ones, ++ IMHO is better 
Thu Oct 15 18:01:21 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well for quick and dirty i think C++ works better than C 
Thu Oct 15 18:01:32 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: I'm counting the learning curve. 
Thu Oct 15 18:01:41 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i.e. no need to build your own data structures just use STL 
Thu Oct 15 18:01:46 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: or don't use objects at all. 
Thu Oct 15 18:01:53 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Oh, I definitely want to do OO stuff, for sure... I know that for sure, at least. 
Thu Oct 15 18:02:05 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: objects are hard to grok for structured programmers i find 
Thu Oct 15 18:02:08 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: a c++ program might use slightly different syntax with no objects at all. 
Thu Oct 15 18:02:27 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: but not so bad for ppl who didnt do structured i think 
Thu Oct 15 18:03:01 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I've read quite a bit about object oriented programming, so I'm actually probably more familiar with that. Although, that is theoretical knowledge based on mding. 
Thu Oct 15 18:03:07 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: *my reading. 
Thu Oct 15 18:03:09 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: still, coders who will be successful tend to be smart enuff to grok object oriented concepts quickly, given a few examples. 
Thu Oct 15 18:03:22 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Ninja, where are you from? 
Thu Oct 15 18:03:40 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: Born in Southeast DC...murder capital of the USA 
Thu Oct 15 18:03:57 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: anyhow that's all the advice I have :D 
Thu Oct 15 18:04:07 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Thanks, Silenus, I appreciate it for sure. 
Thu Oct 15 18:04:30 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: silenus is good at figuring stuff out himself, without coursework. 
Thu Oct 15 18:05:09 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: Silenus is also partly insane (give or take about 70%) 
Thu Oct 15 18:05:21 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: yeah, that's wot I like about him. 
Thu Oct 15 18:05:29 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Aye, I've been lurking on the ds forums for long enough to know that for sure. 
Thu Oct 15 18:06:10 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: actually very insane I blame reading the driver code :P 
Thu Oct 15 18:07:06 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Is it really that crazy? 
Thu Oct 15 18:07:43 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: nah :D 
Thu Oct 15 18:07:52 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: but definitely not for beginners 
Thu Oct 15 18:07:55 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: its lp ... its crazy :) 
Thu Oct 15 18:10:05 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: some of the code probably doesnt follow good coding practices there are better projects to study prolly if you want to learn C/C++ idiomatically 
Thu Oct 15 18:11:04 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Are any of you guys professionally trained in programming? Not that it matters, I was just curious. 
Thu Oct 15 18:11:21 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: its better then others though.  I have seen projects that actually have notations that read "I was high when I wrote this, i have NO idea why or how it works... dont' touch it" 
Thu Oct 15 18:11:32 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: lol... very nice. 
Thu Oct 15 18:12:19 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: I took programming in college and highschool.  but I didn't keep up the practice of it. 
Thu Oct 15 18:12:21 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well i do have some training in CS 
Thu Oct 15 18:12:27 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i.e. some ugrad degree thingy 
Thu Oct 15 18:12:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: FWIW 
Thu Oct 15 18:12:42 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i think Ninja does too 
Thu Oct 15 18:13:12 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: The only reason I'm considering Masters degree, is just because I think it would make me even that more marketable as far as jobs go... And I think it would be fun. 
Thu Oct 15 18:13:15 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: Peace out, time for work :) 
Thu Oct 15 18:13:22 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Seeya Daius. 
Thu Oct 15 18:13:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: ah no idea about that 
Thu Oct 15 18:13:56 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: might need to ask someone kind of current with the IT industry 
Thu Oct 15 18:13:59 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: they say a master's is worth at least another $20k per year. 
Thu Oct 15 18:14:11 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: maybe hamlet knows 
Thu Oct 15 18:14:18 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Plus, improving on my undergrad GPA could really super help. 
Thu Oct 15 18:14:27 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: "knows" is a strong word. 
Thu Oct 15 18:14:45 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well definitely more than I do :D 
Thu Oct 15 18:15:05 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i did some other degree for my masters 
Thu Oct 15 18:15:08 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: And I like the idea of working and actually being comfortable money wise... tired of struggling through college... 
Thu Oct 15 18:15:11 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: What did you do? 
Thu Oct 15 18:15:26 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: just some part time bioinformatics thing 
Thu Oct 15 18:15:51 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: so if I went for an industry type job it would probably be working for a pharmaceutical. 
Thu Oct 15 18:16:17 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: my experience suggests I probably got $25k more for the Masters...  it's very limited experience, though. 
Thu Oct 15 18:16:25 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, I have a Mathematics degree (almost) and I have no idea what I'm going to do with it, so I thought I'd build it up to a Masters in Software... 
Thu Oct 15 18:16:32 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: What do you do, Hamlet? 
Thu Oct 15 18:16:51 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: so you got a position now Hamlet? 
Thu Oct 15 18:17:29 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: what *will* I do :P   I start Monday.  and I really don't have details.  software dev.  And I assume not UI, since I never tried to convince them that I was any good at that. 
Thu Oct 15 18:17:46 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Where you starting at? 
Thu Oct 15 18:18:16 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: ah nice 
Thu Oct 15 18:18:19 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: grats hamlet 
Thu Oct 15 18:19:08 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Seriously, I'm not looking forward to the whole job searching thing this winter at all. 
Thu Oct 15 18:19:19 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Haven't ever had a job that was "real" for more than a summer... 
Thu Oct 15 18:19:27 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: tools to make doctors' offices run more smoothly.  insurance company billing, electronic data management, even reminder calls.  
Thu Oct 15 18:20:08 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: *nod* sounds good. 
Thu Oct 15 18:20:20 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: the job search is definitely not pleasant right now.  took me, uh, 5 months? 
Thu Oct 15 18:20:29 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: and that's in a big market, too. 
Thu Oct 15 18:20:53 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: *nod* 
Thu Oct 15 18:20:56 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I'm in Alaska currently... small market with hopefully more openings... 
Thu Oct 15 18:21:00 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: But I'm planning on moving soon... so I don't know 
Thu Oct 15 18:21:56 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Heh, 1d 9h to finish downloading and installing Eclipse for Ubuntu... sheesh 
Thu Oct 15 18:22:23 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: I am debating doing a phd atm 
Thu Oct 15 18:22:40 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: still completely unsure 
Thu Oct 15 18:22:43 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Ooo... really? I've been thinking about it... but don't have the dedication, I think, at the moment. 
Thu Oct 15 18:22:51 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: What would you do it in? 
Thu Oct 15 18:23:02 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: probably either computer science or statistics 
Thu Oct 15 18:23:12 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Ahh! Not statistics! 
Thu Oct 15 18:23:18 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: boring? 
Thu Oct 15 18:23:32 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Seriously boring... 
Thu Oct 15 18:23:45 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i like probability theory 
Thu Oct 15 18:23:55 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: but linear models = kind of meh for me. 
Thu Oct 15 18:24:03 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Computer Science is way better... though if you really want a trip, you should go with Theoretical Algebra... heh. 
Thu Oct 15 18:24:26 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i am dont have enough training in math to do a math phd 
Thu Oct 15 18:24:30 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, Probability Theory is neat... I don't know that I could do it personally, but I don't like chance... so ya know. 
Thu Oct 15 18:24:42 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: manifold topology...beats sex anyday. 
Thu Oct 15 18:25:02 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i suspect i could pass the gre subject test with 1 year prep or so 
Thu Oct 15 18:25:14 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: but i looked at those qualifiers 
Thu Oct 15 18:25:20 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Unfortunately, I don't have any background in topology due to a smaller University with less class offerings. 
Thu Oct 15 18:25:24 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: not sure i could do that without many years of work. 
Thu Oct 15 18:25:36 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: The qualifiers are insane... even with a background in mathm. 
Thu Oct 15 18:25:55 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i checked some stat quals they seem easier 
Thu Oct 15 18:26:19 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: what kind of math do you like? 
Thu Oct 15 18:26:24 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, I haven't looked into that at all, because I'm pretty sure I would commit suicide. 
Thu Oct 15 18:26:44 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I prefer theoretical mathematics, usually either real/complex analysis or algebra... algebra being my favorite, I think. 
Thu Oct 15 18:27:05 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: ah dont know too much about either of those i know some but not alot 
Thu Oct 15 18:27:26 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: modern algebra(AA) seems like a lot of fun tho 
Thu Oct 15 18:27:34 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, algebra's awesome... but at this particular semester, I'm stuck with taking a ton of classes that I don't want to take in a bunch of subjects I don't like. 
Thu Oct 15 18:27:43 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: like? 
Thu Oct 15 18:27:46 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: And yes, that is the type of algebra I'm talking about. 
Thu Oct 15 18:28:10 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: been trying to read Serge Lang a bit seems like interesting stuff 
Thu Oct 15 18:28:49 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i wish i had more training in that area but i dont :S 
Thu Oct 15 18:29:19 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I'm currently in a freshman biology lab... and I'm taking two business admin classes and one accounting class... doing a Business minor... 
Thu Oct 15 18:29:22 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: so probably should stick to stuff i do know some stuff about computer science or maybe statistics (theoretical sid) 
Thu Oct 15 18:29:38 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: ah biology 
Thu Oct 15 18:29:46 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: And I bet you could combine those two areas in some type of PhD degree... 
Thu Oct 15 18:30:02 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well the reason i thought about statistics is 
Thu Oct 15 18:30:17 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: alot of bioinformatics type jobs are looking for ppl with stat training 
Thu Oct 15 18:30:32 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, that makes sense... and with a PhD you should be able to demand tons of money. 
Thu Oct 15 18:30:56 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: possibly dunno :) 
Thu Oct 15 18:31:06 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: What do you do currently? 
Thu Oct 15 18:31:36 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well job hunting atm got did an interview with someone and he offered me a position but the paperwork still hasnt gone through HR 
Thu Oct 15 18:31:50 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: so I am waiting to hear sort of 
Thu Oct 15 18:32:03 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, understood... I'm going to try and do some job hunting here in another month. Graduating in December... 
Thu Oct 15 18:32:08 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: if it does come through 
Thu Oct 15 18:32:25 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Hopefully going to get a math job on campus as staff... or might get stuck working for the state doing something boring. 
Thu Oct 15 18:32:31 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: And good luck with that, for sure. 
Thu Oct 15 18:32:33 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i should be doing some work doing research in a CS department 
Thu Oct 15 18:32:39 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: doing data mining 
Thu Oct 15 18:32:53 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I think research would be quite a bit of fun, if you could get into a good research company/group. 
Thu Oct 15 18:32:55 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: which might be a good experience if I want to do phd work. 
Thu Oct 15 18:33:19 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Evil Kalinash, with your fascinating links! :P 
Thu Oct 15 18:33:39 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: True that. 
Thu Oct 15 18:33:49 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well good luck with that too 
Thu Oct 15 18:33:59 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: and yep Kal has some evil ones :D 
Thu Oct 15 18:43:45 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Darn, the Ubuntu repositories are really going slowly today. 
Thu Oct 15 18:44:15 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: having the same problem with acm 
Thu Oct 15 19:01:35 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: death of the internet 
Thu Oct 15 19:07:42 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Seriously. 
Thu Oct 15 19:08:54 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: "Sad hours seem long." ;) 
Thu Oct 15 19:42:09 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Gotta head to work now, ttyl 
Thu Oct 15 20:01:00 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i'm only MOSTLY evil 
Thu Oct 15 20:03:27 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Yeah, yeah.  You are like my doppleganger, only slightly less cool. hehe 
Thu Oct 15 20:04:27 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: =P 
Thu Oct 15 21:59:26 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: work stinks... its cold and raining. 
Thu Oct 15 21:59:40 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: that's the best time to be at work 
Thu Oct 15 22:00:27 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: wb Daius 
Thu Oct 15 22:00:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: and hi kalinash 
Thu Oct 15 22:00:41 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: hey hey 
Thu Oct 15 22:02:06 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i think i am finally bored with Aion 
Thu Oct 15 22:02:22 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: I was a week ago. 
Thu Oct 15 22:02:29 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: stuck at level 19 
Thu Oct 15 22:02:42 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: join a legion 
Thu Oct 15 22:02:46 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: I got bored at 13 i think. 
Thu Oct 15 22:02:50 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: bought the new skills and decided = meh 
Thu Oct 15 22:05:29 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: that and why should I pay $15 a month for lag? 
Thu Oct 15 22:05:41 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Hi guys, I'm back... what's up? 
Thu Oct 15 22:05:45 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: no lag 
Thu Oct 15 22:06:09 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i get really bad lag when flying sometimes 
Thu Oct 15 22:06:14 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: and suddenly i am dead 
Thu Oct 15 22:06:18 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: :S 
Thu Oct 15 22:06:21 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Talking Aion or WoW? 
Thu Oct 15 22:06:22 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: aion 
Thu Oct 15 22:06:45 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I played for the first month free... and then let my subscription go, because I don't have any money... and it wasn't really catching me. 
Thu Oct 15 22:07:06 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: how far did you get? 
Thu Oct 15 22:07:15 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Hmm... lvl 20ish... 
Thu Oct 15 22:07:17 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: rather get a staff built up and get my game going for free :) 
Thu Oct 15 22:07:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i just hit 19 
Thu Oct 15 22:07:40 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: and now it is getting a bit dull 
Thu Oct 15 22:07:43 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: What class? 
Thu Oct 15 22:07:52 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: assassin + ranger 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:10 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: 1 each 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:14 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, I did chanter in OBT... and a Sorc in launch... and neither really got me... 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:22 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: I heard it's supposed to be awesome again around 25 though 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:30 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Abyss :) 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:33 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: assassin is hard with my lag 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:43 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i suspect unless i stun lock someone 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:46 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i will die 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:53 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: move back to the US :) 
Thu Oct 15 22:08:58 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: bah :-) 
Thu Oct 15 22:09:01 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Yeah, I had that problem with trying to kite anything on my sorc 
Thu Oct 15 22:09:08 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: ranger might be more viable 
Thu Oct 15 22:09:18 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: since i have a little distance between me and the enemy 
Thu Oct 15 22:09:25 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: which is why i started that char 
Thu Oct 15 22:09:32 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: They still get on you super fast... it's nuts. Especially with flying... 
Thu Oct 15 22:10:04 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: yeah might be hard to play any pvp type game on a us server from here :P 
Thu Oct 15 22:10:12 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Where you at? 
Thu Oct 15 22:10:23 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: hong kong 
Thu Oct 15 22:10:40 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Ahh... yeah, pretty long distance, depending on internet viability there. 
Thu Oct 15 22:10:56 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: latency is terrible 
Thu Oct 15 22:11:05 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Just go back to mudding ... lag doesn't hurt as bad. ;) I switched back to the PvP mud I used to play when my internet connection up here got bad. 
Thu Oct 15 22:12:15 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: hong kong? and you are active when I am? crazy 
Thu Oct 15 22:12:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: heh yeah 
Thu Oct 15 22:12:56 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: since i am still waiting on my job thing to come through i keep strange hours 
Thu Oct 15 22:12:59 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: crazy only scratches the surface 
Thu Oct 15 22:13:01 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: :D 
Thu Oct 15 22:13:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i prefer nights anyhow it's absolutely silent :D 
Thu Oct 15 22:13:45 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Even in Hong Kong? 
Thu Oct 15 22:13:52 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: not in Mong Kok 
Thu Oct 15 22:14:07 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: where i live it isnt bad 
Thu Oct 15 22:14:31 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: WHy'd you decide to go there? Get kicked out of the U.S.? 
Thu Oct 15 22:14:43 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: actually i grew up here 
Thu Oct 15 22:14:59 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: and went to US for school :D 
Thu Oct 15 22:15:40 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Oh, gotcha... that's neat. 
Thu Oct 15 22:15:49 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: culture does get me sometimes 
Thu Oct 15 22:15:55 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i am too westernized now 
Thu Oct 15 22:16:39 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: College does that to a person, I think... college is where most of your ideas and whatnot get formed, it semes like. 
Thu Oct 15 22:17:09 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: my chinese isnt actually all that great either 
Thu Oct 15 22:17:19 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: my english is quite a bit better 
Thu Oct 15 22:19:58 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: anyhow yeah i am pretty eccentric :D 
Thu Oct 15 22:30:46 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Have any of you guys played the game Dofus? 
Thu Oct 15 22:31:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: never heard of it. 
Thu Oct 15 23:56:44 2009 [dchat] Wodan@Discworld: oh wow, i actually left in some of the optimising code, it's never called though 
Fri Oct 16 00:00:46 2009 [dchat] Wodan@Discworld: although we do some optimizing in generate.c, which optimistically says it can skip some cases because they're done elsewhere.. i wouldn't bet any money on that :) 
Fri Oct 16 00:01:42 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well if I actually finish my compilation engine the whole system is JIT 
Fri Oct 16 00:01:56 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: on LLVM it's pretty hefty though 
Fri Oct 16 00:02:02 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: (LLVM that is) 
Fri Oct 16 00:02:23 2009 [dchat] Wodan@Discworld: does it do hotspot like things? 
Fri Oct 16 00:02:32 2009 [dchat] Wodan@Discworld: although, even without that, it should be quite a bit faster :) 
Fri Oct 16 00:02:45 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: doesnt hotspot presently but there is a project building a hotspot system on LLVM 
Fri Oct 16 00:03:07 2009 [dchat] Taffyd@Discworld: You should wait for .NET 4 and then take advantage of the DLR. 
Fri Oct 16 00:03:11 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: at spot point it might be posible to move to that 
Fri Oct 16 00:03:39 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: LLVM does have optimization passes which you can switch on/off so the system should take care of alot of stuff 
Fri Oct 16 00:03:51 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: did i ever tell you about the guy who couldn't afford personalized license plates so he changed his name to DLR-2404? 
Fri Oct 16 00:04:32 2009 [dchat] Wodan@Discworld: rofl, that's probably cheaper :) 
Fri Oct 16 00:04:40 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: lol 
Fri Oct 16 06:21:32 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: I pass three out of four. :) 
Fri Oct 16 06:22:28 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Um, which becomes obvious as I realize that I sent that to the wrong line.  *ahem* 
Fri Oct 16 15:01:32 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: so much for that uptime test lol ... lost power when some jerk slid (in the rain) into our transformer box. 
Fri Oct 16 15:02:15 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: rofl 
Fri Oct 16 15:02:21 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: :D 
Fri Oct 16 15:05:08 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: but! disaster recovery practice! ... backups worked lol 
Fri Oct 16 15:05:09 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: t-mobile will be so jealous 
Fri Oct 16 15:05:18 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: ? 
Fri Oct 16 15:07:04 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: stupid copy/paste buffer 
Fri Oct 16 15:14:32 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: t-mobile stinks anyway... third rate company 
Fri Oct 16 15:32:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: hey guise 
Fri Oct 16 15:34:32 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: waddup sile 
Fri Oct 16 15:35:10 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: hihi 
Fri Oct 16 15:35:13 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: notta much 
Fri Oct 16 15:35:15 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: must be friday then? 
Fri Oct 16 15:35:17 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: hey Mr Ninja 
Fri Oct 16 15:35:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: dunno letme check.... 
Fri Oct 16 15:36:09 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: Yup seems to be a Friday 
Fri Oct 16 15:38:26 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: how did you check? smeel the air for hot oil? 
Fri Oct 16 15:39:11 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: Why, yes! Yes I did! 
Fri Oct 16 15:39:32 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: it's the traditional day for burning off finger-infesting keyboard demons. 
Fri Oct 16 15:44:32 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: it's amazing what you learn on the intermud, and here was me thinking it was just the jews cooking thier fish for the sabbath 
Fri Oct 16 15:45:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: ouch! I think I burnt one of me fingers! 
Fri Oct 16 15:50:32 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: you know it's catholics that are all obsessed with fish for certain days, right? 
Fri Oct 16 15:51:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: Hammet! 
Fri Oct 16 15:52:19 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: the traditional 'English' fish and chips is a Jewish import, coz they can't w**k on the sabbath, so fried th efish in batter the day before and kept it overnight 
Fri Oct 16 15:53:25 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: many christian traditions are jewish in origin for obviosu reasons 
Fri Oct 16 15:54:32 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: "many" might be going a bit far.  but "some" seems valid. 
Fri Oct 16 15:55:16 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: I started by typing "most" ;) 
Fri Oct 16 15:56:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: mah might not have time to fiddle with mah driver :(. 
Fri Oct 16 15:57:32 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: you know what they say... Mud today, gone tomorrow. 
Fri Oct 16 15:58:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: ashes to ashes... mud to dirt(or is that dust?) 
Fri Oct 16 15:59:17 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: maybe just "mud to mud" 
Fri Oct 16 15:59:25 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: if the wymmin don't get you the whisky must! 
Fri Oct 16 15:59:32 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: s/must/wud/ 
Fri Oct 16 16:00:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: no wymmin no whisky I might be safe! 
Fri Oct 16 16:01:14 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev wipes his brow. 
Fri Oct 16 16:01:24 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: it's a choice tho, wymmin or whiskey, there's no 3rd option 
Fri Oct 16 16:01:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: but wait.... 
Fri Oct 16 16:02:16 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: *sigh* 
Fri Oct 16 16:02:20 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole grin hamlet@WWC-west 
Fri Oct 16 16:02:21 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: hmmm 
Fri Oct 16 16:03:28 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole foos vaguely. 
Fri Oct 16 16:03:32 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole foos vaguely. 
Fri Oct 16 16:04:17 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole grins stupidly. 
Fri Oct 16 16:04:20 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: oh.  so when guy said, "no women no kids",  he meant "give me whiskey"? 
Fri Oct 16 16:04:22 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole wave hamlet@wwc-west 
Fri Oct 16 16:04:24 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: bah! 
Fri Oct 16 16:04:25 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: spect so Hamlet 
Fri Oct 16 16:04:32 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: oh, ah.  Portuguese Jews brought the fried fish to London.  So it's vaguely Jewish, perhaps. 
Fri Oct 16 16:05:17 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: oh i guess that's why they keep giving me bottles of that stuff. 
Fri Oct 16 16:05:20 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: tho I also spect whiskey is a placeholder for any strong beverage/drug 
Fri Oct 16 16:06:15 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: kind of a waste tho since I dont drink :P 
Fri Oct 16 16:06:19 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: could always pass them along. 
Fri Oct 16 16:06:22 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: or use them to heat your house. 
Fri Oct 16 16:15:17 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: kind of afraid i might burn it down :( 
Fri Oct 16 16:16:32 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: aw.  but think of the excitement! 
Fri Oct 16 16:19:32 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: hmmmm.  I just tried to go to newtflix.com. 
Fri Oct 16 16:27:32 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: newtflix for all your newt pron needs 
Fri Oct 16 16:28:19 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: yeah.  surprisingly entertaining! 
Fri Oct 16 16:29:21 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: (or, more accurately, NOT entertaining, since the domain is owned by Blockbuster) 
Fri Oct 16 16:29:24 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: UpTime Test 2: F A I L E D 
Fri Oct 16 16:29:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: Daius wot are you doing with yer mud? 
Fri Oct 16 16:30:21 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: today? NOTHING! cause I keep losing power 
Fri Oct 16 16:30:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: :( 
Fri Oct 16 16:31:20 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: no UPS? 
Fri Oct 16 16:31:31 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: I had one, but it hasn't recharged from the previous power outtage at around 7am EST when we lost power for an hour and a half 
Fri Oct 16 16:32:32 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: :S 
Fri Oct 16 16:45:32 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: You know I can't really make my mouth do that, Sil 
Fri Oct 16 16:46:32 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: try harder! 
Fri Oct 16 16:47:27 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: sinistrad must be some okind of mutant if he can't make his mouth do that... i thought everyone could... 
Fri Oct 16 16:47:32 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Maybe the font I use for S doesn't make it look like 
Fri Oct 16 16:48:32 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: \\ 
Fri Oct 16 16:51:32 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: you have that goolefied 'S' 
Fri Oct 16 16:55:32 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: does it change shape every public holiday? 
Fri Oct 16 19:32:20 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Morning all... back in class again and thought I'd say hi... since photosynthesis is pretty boring. 
Fri Oct 16 19:48:41 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: not when it keeps you alive 
Fri Oct 16 19:59:53 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Well, true, I suppose... but at the same time, who wants to study about it? It'll keep you alive whether you study it or not. 
Fri Oct 16 20:00:12 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: but if you don't know, and then get into spelunking or something... 
Fri Oct 16 20:01:17 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Umm... if you knew me, you would know that spelunking would never be my thing... but assuming it was, what difference would that make? 
Fri Oct 16 20:01:39 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: no light, no synthesis, no more liviing 
Fri Oct 16 20:03:28 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: there's living stuff that don't need light 
Fri Oct 16 20:05:24 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: through photosynthesis? 
Fri Oct 16 20:08:53 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Well... there's some crazy low-light organisms that do photosynthesis... but in all things that use photosynthesis, there are other ways for it to get energy too. 
Fri Oct 16 20:09:20 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: so if i put a house plant in the closet and only give it water at night, it will live? 
Fri Oct 16 20:10:11 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Well, probably not... but they do have some other forms of energy manufacturing, they're just not that strong. It's like putting all of NYC on backup generators... it will all still eventually die out... 
Fri Oct 16 20:11:01 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Of course, you could test your theory... and put a plant in the closet for kicks. 
Fri Oct 16 20:14:22 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Okay, well... off to work for me... 
Fri Oct 16 20:14:24 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: :( 
Fri Oct 16 20:14:28 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Talk to you guys a bit later on... 
Fri Oct 16 22:10:41 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: ok, so who knows where to find decent pho south of Boston? 
Fri Oct 16 22:11:58 2009 [dchat] Chris Bailey@Dead Souls Dev: http://www.phorepublique.net/ 
Fri Oct 16 22:13:52 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: hmmm.  tempting flavors. 
Fri Oct 16 22:19:26 2009 [dchat] Hellmonger@Trilogy: how far south of boston?  we've got decent pho in texas. heh 
Fri Oct 16 22:25:33 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: hmmm.  a little *too* far.  I was thinking more along the lines of half way to Providence. 
Fri Oct 16 22:25:55 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: nothing good ever came out of new england 
Fri Oct 16 22:26:35 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: or old england, for that matter 
Fri Oct 16 22:26:37 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: You're not going to get much of an argument out of *me*... 
Fri Oct 16 22:32:05 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: although Minh Hai in Cranston, RI is quite excellent.  the owner is clearly not from around here, though. 
Fri Oct 16 22:35:46 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: what does the file extension .daa mean? 
Fri Oct 16 22:36:34 2009 [dchat] Chil@Dead Souls Dev: poweriso disc image 
Fri Oct 16 22:37:32 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: hm.  heavily proprietary? 
Fri Oct 16 22:37:50 2009 [dchat] Chil@Dead Souls Dev: There's a sliding scale? 
Fri Oct 16 22:38:31 2009 [dchat] Chil@Dead Souls Dev: I believe there are free conversion tools on most OSes to get an ISO. 
Fri Oct 16 22:38:43 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: hm.  ok, thanks. 
Sat Oct 17 00:31:29 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: looking over my driver code. looks like a fair amount of work still needs to be done to get the thing working 
Sat Oct 17 00:32:02 2009 [dchat] Wodan@Discworld: aww :( 
Sat Oct 17 01:38:49 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: I really need to get around to adding timestamps to the dchat display.. 
Sat Oct 17 01:39:02 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: DONG ... DONG ... DONG 
Sat Oct 17 01:39:03 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: There, that's better! 
Sat Oct 17 12:08:36 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: oooh http://codepad.org a pastebin that can execute stuff 
Sun Oct 18 02:26:30 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: So, what, everyone just went away for the weekend? 
Sun Oct 18 02:26:45 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: nah, they just don't like you. 
Sun Oct 18 02:26:52 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: I sure don't. 
Sun Oct 18 02:27:03 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Ah, well that makes more sense.  Thanks! :) 
Sun Oct 18 02:32:43 2009 [dchat] Lash@Diku to Dead: ticktock syntax anyone? I keep getting a "Failed" error for ticktock [300] 
Sun Oct 18 02:33:11 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: avoid the braces 
Sun Oct 18 02:33:13 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: nicknack paddywack? 
Sun Oct 18 02:34:02 2009 [dchat] Lash@Diku to Dead: thanks *blush* 
Sun Oct 18 02:34:07 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: np 
Sun Oct 18 02:34:56 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: ok Lash, let me explain what will happen now... 
Sun Oct 18 02:35:14 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: sometime, at a time of our choosing, you will be asked to perform a ... favor ... for Don Cratylus. 
Sun Oct 18 02:35:43 2009 [dchat] Lash@Diku to Dead: for instance? 
Sun Oct 18 02:35:46 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: OK, that is just TOO hilarious! 
Sun Oct 18 02:36:22 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: It's just a good thing for you that I was not drinking Coke just now. 
Sun Oct 18 02:38:25 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: ;) 
Sun Oct 18 02:38:59 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Hey, I'm still waiting to hear the for instance! 
Sun Oct 18 02:39:57 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: The Don has many ... business associates. 
Sun Oct 18 02:40:27 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: They often need to be ... convinced of the importance of the Don's ... protection. 
Mon Oct 19 11:32:39 2009 [dchat] Cozminsky@Dead_Souls_cozminsky: ds_test@dead souls 
Mon Oct 19 11:33:30 2009 [dchat] Cozminsky@Dead_Souls_cozminsky: I meant list 
Mon Oct 19 11:44:52 2009 [dchat] Cozminsky@Dead_Souls_cozminsky: /who@eotl 
Mon Oct 19 13:41:50 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Did you try this?  who @eotl 
Mon Oct 19 14:16:35 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: yes, showed me a bunch of idlers 
Mon Oct 19 14:49:11 2009 [dchat] Daius@MotD: cause we all idle :) 
Mon Oct 19 15:26:07 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: I don't idle.  I only /apparently/ idle. :) 
Mon Oct 19 15:27:45 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole thinks the difference is academic 
Mon Oct 19 15:30:41 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Oh, cool!  That sounds better than moot, which is what I was thinking.! 
Mon Oct 19 15:34:34 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: the important word in your sentance is sounds 
Mon Oct 19 15:41:24 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: All I can hear from that is that you find one of my words important! hehe 
Mon Oct 19 15:41:58 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: isn't selective deafness a blessing 
Mon Oct 19 15:43:48 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Yup, and blessings are great things to have, I think you'll agree. :)  *idles blessedly* 
Mon Oct 19 15:47:57 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: depends who's doing the blessing, if it's Yog Sothoth I'm not so sure 
Mon Oct 19 15:56:14 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: <selective deafness> blessing, I'm sure </selective deafness>  Thanks, dude! 
Mon Oct 19 15:57:32 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: no whuckers mate, may the blessings of a thousand daemons infest your shorts ;) 
Mon Oct 19 16:09:08 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: <selective deafness> bless your shorts ;) </selective deafness>  Really, I just don't know how to respond to that. :P 
Mon Oct 19 17:26:35 2009 [dchat] Detah@Dead Souls Dev: good afternoon 
Mon Oct 19 17:26:59 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: soup 
Mon Oct 19 17:27:04 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: chicken 
Mon Oct 19 17:27:30 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i wish i had some chiken soup actually 
Mon Oct 19 17:27:49 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: mine's simmering 
Mon Oct 19 17:27:56 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i just ate a bunch of ice cream and it was tasty but now i'm fffreezing 
Mon Oct 19 17:28:14 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: that's my no.1 complaint about ice cream, it's too damn cold 
Mon Oct 19 17:28:38 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: I've often wondered if I could change the pressure so that water would ice up at say 5-6 deg C 
Mon Oct 19 17:28:42 2009 [dchat] Detah@Dead Souls Dev: I think Im gonna make some 3 alarm chili this Friday. guaranteed to warm the coldest of fingers. 
Mon Oct 19 19:38:27 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Good morning! 
Mon Oct 19 19:38:54 2009 [dchat] Wodan@Discworld: evening! 
Mon Oct 19 19:38:57 2009 [dchat] Karri@Dionea: Good afternoon! 
Mon Oct 19 19:39:37 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: good night 
Mon Oct 19 19:39:39 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: hi all 
Mon Oct 19 19:42:38 2009 [dchat] Aphid@Esoteria MUD: Wow, that's really a large time variation.. crazy. 
Mon Oct 19 19:43:19 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: intermud is global mam! 
Mon Oct 19 19:44:00 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: Aphids aren't mammals! 
Mon Oct 19 19:45:11 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: you can milk then 
Mon Oct 19 19:45:17 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: them even 
Mon Oct 19 19:48:20 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i love milk 
Mon Oct 19 19:49:47 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: milky milky eh? you filthy swine! 
Mon Oct 19 19:50:07 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: cat's milk is the best 
Mon Oct 19 19:52:06 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: You can milk your nose, and you can milk your friennd, but you can't milk your friend's nose. 
Mon Oct 19 19:52:21 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: wanna bet? 
Mon Oct 19 19:52:32 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: why not? 
Mon Oct 19 19:52:48 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: fortune cookie didn't say. 
Mon Oct 19 19:53:01 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: I think Ninja has too much time on his hands for experimenting.. 
Mon Oct 19 19:53:41 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev makes a note: Kejope is now experiment # 1407 
Mon Oct 19 19:53:42 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: it's against God's law to milk your friend's nose, lightening will happen 
Mon Oct 19 19:53:52 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: oh 
Mon Oct 19 19:53:56 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: ok 
Mon Oct 19 20:01:00 2009 [dchat] Karri@Dionea: Those are VERY orderly cats. 
Mon Oct 19 20:01:16 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i prefer to milk the cats, not feed the cats milk 
Tue Oct 20 03:29:01 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west: A player named Violet asked me what her surname should be.  And I said, "Pacification".  She wasn't impressed. 
Tue Oct 20 03:29:08 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC-west sighs. 
Tue Oct 20 04:30:23 2009 [dchat] Kejope@Cookie Dough: No appreciation these days for sage advice. 
Wed Oct 21 16:19:18 2009 [dchat] Ooze@MotD: hello 
Wed Oct 21 16:19:27 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: sup 
Wed Oct 21 16:19:37 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: wotcha 
Wed Oct 21 16:19:48 2009 [dchat] Ooze@MotD: ooh the usal trying to figure out how to code 
Wed Oct 21 16:20:26 2009 [dchat] Ooze@MotD: ooh  new chapter 
Wed Oct 21 16:54:15 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: eval { while(1) { reset_eval_cost(); } } 
Wed Oct 21 16:54:57 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: heh 
Wed Oct 21 16:55:45 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i'm not evil, i'm just coded that way 
Wed Oct 21 16:56:09 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: so you are a program? 
Wed Oct 21 16:56:29 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: do i pass the turing test? 
Wed Oct 21 16:56:45 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: turning test? 
Wed Oct 21 16:56:53 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: are you turing complete? 
Wed Oct 21 16:57:37 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: maybe you were programmed to be evil? 
Wed Oct 21 16:57:56 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: could be 
Wed Oct 21 16:58:14 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole tries to install nethack on Kalinash 
Wed Oct 21 16:58:29 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i don't run linux! 
Wed Oct 21 16:58:46 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: if you're turing complete it's just a matter of recompilation 
Wed Oct 21 16:59:04 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: you make it sound trivial.... 
Wed Oct 21 16:59:25 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole:  my bad 
Wed Oct 21 17:00:06 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: it might also run in polynomial time too! 
Wed Oct 21 17:00:28 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i'm quantum 
Wed Oct 21 17:01:02 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: I think there's treatment available for that now 
Wed Oct 21 17:01:06 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: sounds like you are destined to be a hacker 
Wed Oct 21 17:01:20 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: or should i say cracker 
Wed Oct 21 17:01:30 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: racist :( 
Wed Oct 21 17:01:52 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: programs dont have race! 
Wed Oct 21 17:02:04 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: some of them have race... conditions 
Wed Oct 21 17:02:47 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: hmm which begs the question 
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