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Tue Aug 11 11:57:47 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: seeya 
Tue Aug 11 11:57:55 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Take care. 
Tue Aug 11 11:57:59 2009 [dchat] Aidil@Way of the Force: good luck :) 
Tue Aug 11 11:59:24 2009 [dchat] Aidil@Way of the Force: btw, most drives that failed on me just made a rather loud clicking or scraping sound, after which they'd never spinup again. 
Tue Aug 11 12:00:30 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: those of mine that died got old-fashioned physical bad sectors. Platter decay. 
Tue Aug 11 12:01:05 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: I seem to hear that motor and heads breakage is more popular nowadays... cutting production costs, *sigh*. 
Tue Aug 11 12:01:26 2009 [dchat] Aidil@Way of the Force: usually, when reviewing logged smartdata afterwards, there are pointers to the drive being on its way to failure, usually absurd error rates and rapid increase in spin retry count. 
Tue Aug 11 12:01:28 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (Whatever)... 
Tue Aug 11 12:01:49 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: spin retry is usually audible. 
Tue Aug 11 12:02:08 2009 [dchat] Aidil@Way of the Force: yeah, but would require you to always sit near the machine :) 
Tue Aug 11 12:02:22 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: i sit ON it, actually. 
Tue Aug 11 12:02:50 2009 [dchat] Aidil@Way of the Force: well.. usually I'm not :) 
Tue Aug 11 12:03:25 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Well, you're a knight. I'm a peasant. What to compare here? 
Tue Aug 11 15:51:09 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: i pick up a lot of old, throw-away machines, slap linux on them and use them for years. 
Tue Aug 11 15:51:21 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: every single one had/has WD drives. 
Tue Aug 11 15:53:33 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: WD raptors ftw 
Tue Aug 11 15:54:11 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: WHAT?! 
Tue Aug 11 15:54:31 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: High speed, high temperature, high wear. 
Tue Aug 11 15:54:37 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: These aren't designed for many years of use. 
Tue Aug 11 15:55:00 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: speed man it's all about the speed 
Tue Aug 11 15:55:17 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: For me, reliability > speed. 
Tue Aug 11 15:55:38 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: amen 
Tue Aug 11 15:55:40 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: use stone tablets then 
Tue Aug 11 15:55:47 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: After decade on ATA/33, every modern drive feels fast for me. 
Tue Aug 11 15:55:58 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Stone tables break easily. 
Tue Aug 11 15:56:20 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: fsvo easily 
Tue Aug 11 15:56:30 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: fsvo? 
Tue Aug 11 15:56:36 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: ah, ic. 
Tue Aug 11 15:56:38 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: for some values of 
Tue Aug 11 15:56:39 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: ya 
Tue Aug 11 15:57:01 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Ever saw Mel Brooks' History of the World? 
Tue Aug 11 15:57:09 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole often wonders if it should be fcvo 
Tue Aug 11 15:57:17 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i love the inquisition bit 
Tue Aug 11 15:57:19 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: certain 
Tue Aug 11 15:57:46 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: I think I saw it, but ages ago and not fully compis mentis 
Tue Aug 11 15:57:57 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: "People of Israel! I have brought you fif... *one of the tablets falls down and breaks* teh commandments!" 
Tue Aug 11 15:58:10 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: *ten :) 
Tue Aug 11 16:01:05 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: heh! 
Tue Aug 11 16:01:41 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: tho I think real stone tablets are harder to break, could always incase them in Boing TM 
Tue Aug 11 16:01:44 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: the inquisition part at the very beginning is the best thing mel brooks ever did 
Tue Aug 11 16:01:59 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: better than the campfire scene in blazing saddles? 
Tue Aug 11 16:02:09 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: blazing saddles is crud 
Tue Aug 11 16:02:22 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: my milage varies 
Tue Aug 11 16:02:24 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: It's just a matter of taste... 
Tue Aug 11 16:02:30 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i'm still waiting for someone to explain the end to me 
Tue Aug 11 16:02:37 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: it's meta dude 
Tue Aug 11 16:02:48 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: afaict, mel brooks just gave up 
Tue Aug 11 16:03:01 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: "screw it. pie fight." 
Tue Aug 11 16:03:11 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: gave up??!?! the best fighjt scene in any movie ever is giving up? 
Tue Aug 11 16:03:15 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: heh 
Tue Aug 11 16:06:22 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: The inquisiiiiition 
Tue Aug 11 16:09:24 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: nobody expects the Spanish one 
Tue Aug 11 16:09:44 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Nobody expected the ambulance... 
Tue Aug 11 16:10:38 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: in the sauna I'd think not! 
Tue Aug 11 16:10:48 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: tinyurl.com/n3tugo 
Tue Aug 11 16:11:53 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: first occurance of the rescue team happens in the bar scene. 
Tue Aug 11 16:12:29 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: hmm posted by a Stanisslaw , tho too bandwidth hungry for me 
Tue Aug 11 16:12:43 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: some kind of moontalk 
Tue Aug 11 16:13:09 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: there seem to be a lot of Stanislaw's in my life at the mo, Grof, Lem and now that one 
Tue Aug 11 16:13:18 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: -' 
Tue Aug 11 16:13:22 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Coincidence. 
Tue Aug 11 16:13:35 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: I'm not one of them. 
Tue Aug 11 16:13:40 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: QED. 
Tue Aug 11 16:14:46 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: que en paz descanse. 
Tue Aug 11 16:22:08 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole mutters darkly 
Tue Aug 11 16:22:22 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: I don't believe in conincidence 
Tue Aug 11 16:22:35 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: it's all a plot, I have PROOF! 
Tue Aug 11 16:22:43 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: 151 proof? 
Tue Aug 11 16:22:52 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: lol 
Tue Aug 11 16:23:51 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: I love the proof method of testing booze, "So we poor some on the gunpowder and if it still goes bang, that's proof 
Wed Aug 12 00:01:46 2009 [dchat] Mazu@Left To Die: Hello. 
Wed Aug 12 00:02:29 2009 [dchat] Tsarenzi@Sremassande: Hullo. 
Wed Aug 12 00:07:34 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: eep 
Wed Aug 12 00:08:54 2009 [dchat] Mazu@Left To Die: Eep? Breaking anything, Kal? 
Wed Aug 12 00:09:06 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: no, fixing! 
Wed Aug 12 00:09:16 2009 [dchat] Mazu@Left To Die: That's much better than breaking. 
Wed Aug 12 00:11:22 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: depends... do you prefer to make the mess? or clean up someone else's mess? :) 
Wed Aug 12 00:11:50 2009 [dchat] Mazu@Left To Die: It'd be nice if that was up to me, but I'll likely end up doing the first one, whether I intend to or not. 
Wed Aug 12 00:11:56 2009 [dchat] Tsarenzi@Sremassande: Well, if someone's going to make the mess... 
Wed Aug 12 00:12:00 2009 [dchat] Mazu@Left To Die: I'd be happy if I could do the latter too >.> But I'm still learning. 
Wed Aug 12 00:35:31 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: you never stop learning 
Wed Aug 12 00:35:40 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: even crat learns new tricks 
Wed Aug 12 00:35:48 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: some of us never started... 
Wed Aug 12 00:35:52 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i just wish using the litter box was one of them :( 
Wed Aug 12 00:36:03 2009 [dchat] Mazu@Left To Die: Well, I'd be content knowing enough to get by for now >.> 
Wed Aug 12 00:36:06 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: ha ha ha 
Wed Aug 12 00:59:01 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: later all 
Wed Aug 12 00:59:10 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: bai 
Wed Aug 12 00:59:15 2009 [dchat] Mazu@Left To Die: Cya Vlad 
Wed Aug 12 01:42:25 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@Discworld: < 
Wed Aug 12 01:43:06 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: ikaga desuka 
Wed Aug 12 01:44:24 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: are you sure you feel good saying that? 
Wed Aug 12 01:44:45 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: hai genki desu 
Wed Aug 12 01:46:11 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: well.  I think my drive has found its way back to comparitive stability long enough to backup some files, anyway. 
Wed Aug 12 01:47:42 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: after all that fretting, I'm not seeing an overwhelming number of files that need saved anyway.  very odd.  apparently I don't _ever_ do anything useful :P 
Wed Aug 12 01:47:50 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: do so 
Wed Aug 12 01:47:57 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: that translator is sweet 
Wed Aug 12 01:48:20 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: what translator? 
Wed Aug 12 01:48:27 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: oh i get it 
Wed Aug 12 01:48:30 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: no translator 
Wed Aug 12 01:48:41 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i got you confused with someone else 
Fri Aug 14 01:54:23 2009 [dchat] Tricky@andSapid: I3 logs back. :) -- http://ebspso.dnsalias.org/i3logs/ 
Fri Aug 14 01:59:30 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Whee 
Fri Aug 14 02:47:06 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Nice Tricky, now if we had an lpc command to pull the last N entries from such logs, we could have a "browse" option for folks to use when deciding which channels to subscribe to. :) 
Fri Aug 14 02:47:47 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: tell rss@rock the halo !help 
Fri Aug 14 02:48:10 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Or however you format it. 
Fri Aug 14 02:55:06 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Ahhh, have to put the name in quotes... silly whitespace. :) 
Fri Aug 14 02:57:03 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Looks like you could easily add feeds for each channel's log page.  Nifty. 
Fri Aug 14 02:58:02 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Reminds me... need to add intermud.org feeds to the log page. 
Fri Aug 14 04:53:33 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: So, where do people like mail-ordering hard drives from these days?  I get other stuff from newegg, but they don't package drives very well, and UPS likes to practice their NFL skills on occasion. 
Fri Aug 14 13:20:52 2009 [dchat] Aidil@GurbaHub: I prefer to pay the slightly higher price for getting disks from a brick and mortar shop. 
Fri Aug 14 13:22:23 2009 [dchat] Aidil@GurbaHub: not coz of shipping (who knows what happened before those disks even entered the country, much bigger worry then the last bit from the reseller to your house) but because I can go there with a broken part and return home with a new one without having to wait for shipping delays. 
Fri Aug 14 19:45:01 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Operating system people get no respect. All the hoopla and credit goes to the folks six APIs above your stuff, who move pixels around and make .ZIP-BOOM. noises while wasting cycles with horrible abandon. 
Fri Aug 14 19:45:32 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: i respect them 
Fri Aug 14 19:45:39 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: by them i mean you 
Fri Aug 14 19:45:42 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Bitterness equals 1 over the number of levels you are above the hardware. This, of course, makes hardware people infinitely bitter, which exactly matches observation. 
Fri Aug 14 19:46:01 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: :S 
Fri Aug 14 19:46:02 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: I respect the ones that aren't trolling asses. 
Fri Aug 14 19:46:18 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: but then i did write my own OS once, in uni - just a dos clone 
Fri Aug 14 19:46:26 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: so i kinda get the complexity 
Fri Aug 14 19:46:45 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: *very very simple* 
Fri Aug 14 19:47:11 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well Kal OS stuff is way beyond me I am still just starting to learn the hardware side stuff. 
Fri Aug 14 19:52:01 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: were I work, the os folks drive the ship 
Fri Aug 14 19:52:02 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Evil is too smart to be obvious.  If Evil had a programming language it would be sweet and seductive, leading you down the primrose path to perdition and just massive screwedness (huh: Name a successful product done in, say, Smalltalk).  C++ is not evil, rather, it is the language for masochists; it.s the kitty that purrs nicely to you until it.s earned your trust, and that.s when it turns into claws and utter batshit insanity. 
Fri Aug 14 19:52:26 2009 [dchat] Hellmonger@Trilogy: much like a spouse 
Fri Aug 14 19:52:31 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Every time you use #define, God kills a start-up. 
Fri Aug 14 19:52:33 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: they seem to forget that there is actually a product that needs to function and look nice to users on top of their layer 
Fri Aug 14 19:52:56 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Ahem, you can't say 
Fri Aug 14 19:53:00 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: here 
Fri Aug 14 19:55:01 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: the os guys are like, "What do you need a functional video and sound server for?" 
Fri Aug 14 19:55:28 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: brainf**k is an evil language 
Fri Aug 14 19:55:33 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: they think if you can access vi than all is good 
Fri Aug 14 19:55:34 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: c is nothing to that 
Fri Aug 14 19:58:10 2009 [dchat] Vardogr@Legacies of Ora: What about Whitespace? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29 
Fri Aug 14 19:58:42 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: nice 
Fri Aug 14 20:00:02 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i read Bjarne's Stroustrups idea for a whitespace operator- i suspect he was serious. whitespace operator overloading ftw! 
Fri Aug 14 20:00:16 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: just shoot me now :P 
Fri Aug 14 20:00:37 2009 [dchat] Vardogr@Legacies of Ora: You know, people can only think about that stuff so long before going off the deep end. 
Fri Aug 14 20:01:01 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: whitespace is the devil is you are doing JCL 
Fri Aug 14 20:01:03 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: well he's a prof he gets paid to think about the crazy deep end stuff i guess. 
Fri Aug 14 20:01:05 2009 [dchat] Vardogr@Legacies of Ora: I suspect C++ did that to him long ago though. 
Fri Aug 14 20:01:49 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: as for how practical it is i have no idea... C++ is a pretty whacky language in many respects. 
Fri Aug 14 20:03:14 2009 [dchat] Vardogr@Legacies of Ora: C++ makes milk curdle and babies cry. 
Fri Aug 14 20:03:39 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: lol 
Fri Aug 14 20:03:47 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: I am currently using it but no idea. 
Fri Aug 14 20:04:03 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: C++ is whatever you want it to be 
Fri Aug 14 20:04:04 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: havent as of yet run into too many of the big gotchas yet. 
Fri Aug 14 20:04:16 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i might eventually :P 
Fri Aug 14 20:04:24 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: it is like silly putty 
Fri Aug 14 20:04:43 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: for elegance obviously smalltalk is kind of neat as is lisp/scheme. 
Fri Aug 14 20:04:50 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: or self. 
Fri Aug 14 20:05:10 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: but i could not imagine doing without static type checking. 
Fri Aug 14 20:08:08 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: damn there was this language.. it was c but they've redefined all the operators and stuff with #defines 
Fri Aug 14 20:08:14 2009 [dchat] Flumpy@Dead Souls Dev: what the heck was it 
Fri Aug 14 20:46:17 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Why is it that Office 2007 OEM is more expensive than the full retail version? 
Fri Aug 14 20:48:49 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: no # license restrictions? 
Fri Aug 14 20:49:09 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Not as far as I can tell. 
Fri Aug 14 20:50:13 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: Is referencing #define in dchat the same as using #define, for God's purposes? 
Fri Aug 14 20:50:15 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: I can only imagine the lack of those restrictions makes it more expensive. 
Fri Aug 14 20:51:36 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: If so, you just killed a start-up, Apache 
Fri Aug 14 20:51:51 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: 2 of 'em even 
Fri Aug 14 20:51:56 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Murderer 
Fri Aug 14 20:52:09 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: You can buy a Home license for 85GBP ex vat OEM version versus 65GBP ex vat for Home retail in the UK. The only difference being that the OEM license unlocks a Office ready PC. 
Fri Aug 14 20:52:23 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: if it's a volume license version then yeah, mucho buckos 
Fri Aug 14 20:52:43 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Both 1 machine license. 
Fri Aug 14 20:52:56 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: well, we do hate the EU afterall 
Fri Aug 14 20:53:03 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: I'm twittering that 
Fri Aug 14 20:53:19 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: maybe if you stop sueing us we'll make it easier for you 
Fri Aug 14 20:53:55 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: I thought the EU hated Microsoft, not the other way round. Besides, I don't count myself as a Euro. 
Fri Aug 14 20:54:07 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: the rest of the world does 
Fri Aug 14 20:54:14 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: including the EUC 
Fri Aug 14 20:54:18 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: :( 
Fri Aug 14 20:54:26 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Most of the UK doesn't count themselves as Euro, just the southerners. 
Fri Aug 14 20:54:51 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Quebec doesn't think of itself as part of Canada, but they are 
Fri Aug 14 20:55:01 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Holy crap I was just thinking QUebec 
Fri Aug 14 20:55:14 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Weak argument 
Fri Aug 14 20:55:17 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Maybe it's an obvious train of thought 
Fri Aug 14 20:55:34 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: You might not think of yourself as Euro, but politically and economically, you are 
Fri Aug 14 20:55:48 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Not that I'm supporting this "the OEM price is higher because MS hates the EU" bit 
Fri Aug 14 20:56:00 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: (we do) 
Fri Aug 14 20:56:06 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Candians have problems wondering whether they are French or English. 
Fri Aug 14 20:56:51 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: The first Ada compiler was written in Ada. 
Fri Aug 14 20:56:53 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: Are Candians from Candy-Land? 
Fri Aug 14 20:57:04 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: no no no don't ever tell a Quebecer that they speak French or are French they will string you up 
Fri Aug 14 20:57:10 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Politically and economically our government is an ASS 
Fri Aug 14 20:57:23 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: they are their own identity 
Fri Aug 14 20:57:32 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Isn't it "Quebecois"? 
Fri Aug 14 20:57:35 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Alternative to Socialist Suicide? 
Fri Aug 14 20:57:56 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Close enough 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:03 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: you have to write it in english too, it's the law :) 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:06 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: heh 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:07 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: don't know but I had a lady from there rip my head off in a business conference call for suggesting they speak French 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:18 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: ...what? 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:24 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: They speak FR-CA 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:25 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: she was mortally offended 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:35 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: What did she say she spoke? 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:47 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: EN-US > EN-EN 
Fri Aug 14 20:58:51 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: Canadian French 
Fri Aug 14 20:59:00 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: en-GB 
Fri Aug 14 20:59:11 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: even worse! 
Fri Aug 14 20:59:23 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: fr-CA 
Fri Aug 14 20:59:29 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: That's silly - AMericans aren't offended because we speak English. "NO NO!!! WE SPEAK EN-US!! ENNN YOUU EEESSS!!!!" 
Fri Aug 14 20:59:37 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Foolish woman. 
Fri Aug 14 20:59:52 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: mind you this was a high level business call 
Fri Aug 14 20:59:57 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: What's the official language of the US anyway? 
Fri Aug 14 21:00:06 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: Merkin 
Fri Aug 14 21:00:16 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Spanish these days 
Fri Aug 14 21:00:25 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: NO NO!!! SP-MX!!!! 
Fri Aug 14 21:00:29 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: we don't have an "official" language 
Fri Aug 14 21:00:38 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: which is the problem 
Fri Aug 14 21:00:49 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: majority rules baby 
Fri Aug 14 21:00:58 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: why do they print the driver's guide in chinese when none of the road signs are? 
Fri Aug 14 21:01:14 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: You should give half your country back to Mexico then. 
Fri Aug 14 21:01:18 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: YOU CAN GET A LICENSE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO READ ENGLISH 
Fri Aug 14 21:01:20 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: I think if anyone wants to move here, they should all learn this country's native language: Apache. 
Fri Aug 14 21:01:22 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: political contributions 
Fri Aug 14 21:01:29 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Vlad, I would've said, "Lady. What language am I speaking? It's fine to call it English." 
Fri Aug 14 21:01:39 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: heh, mexico has already taken it back 
Fri Aug 14 21:01:41 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: lol 
Fri Aug 14 21:02:50 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: Texas, New Mexico and California have already been renamed "Northern Mexico" on their maps 
Fri Aug 14 21:03:23 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: Azlan... our new S Court Justice is on there team... 
Fri Aug 14 21:03:27 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: What as? Coed spring break land? 
Fri Aug 14 21:03:50 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: The joke's on Mexico..the jobs are all moving to China. 
Fri Aug 14 21:04:13 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: they can have it as long as I get home made tortillias 
Fri Aug 14 21:04:21 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: I can be bought 
Fri Aug 14 21:04:27 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: flour tortillas - yum 
Fri Aug 14 21:04:34 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Mmm... and they just get more of your dollars to bankcrupt you wit 
Fri Aug 14 21:04:38 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: churros! 
Fri Aug 14 21:04:42 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: churros for burros! 
Fri Aug 14 21:04:51 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: Wait until the Chinese get a load of our cunning plan to flood China with Mexicans... 
Fri Aug 14 21:05:23 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: China can't afford Mexicans, too expensive. 
Fri Aug 14 21:05:59 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: but the combination of Mexican Hairless dogs and Chinese cuisine... 
Fri Aug 14 21:06:02 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: win-win 
Fri Aug 14 21:06:08 2009 [dchat] Hellmonger@Trilogy: really? 
Fri Aug 14 21:06:24 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: No es pollo? 
Fri Aug 14 21:06:49 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: the chinese have a saying, "chinese people will eat anything with it's back to the sun" 
Fri Aug 14 21:07:26 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Technically that would mean Americans. 
Fri Aug 14 21:07:42 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: they avoid hunch-backs 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:00 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev personally can't wait for the combination of foods... 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:22 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: Sweet and sour nachos? 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:24 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: some general's chicken in a tortilla sound nice 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:36 2009 [dchat] Hellmonger@Trilogy: i've never seen a mad newer than the 1800's that had texas as 'northern mexico' 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:41 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: general's chihuahua 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:49 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: lol 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:51 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: Ever heard of chinese cheese? 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:52 2009 [dchat] Hellmonger@Trilogy: maybe if i go to infomars, there will be one 
Fri Aug 14 21:08:57 2009 [dchat] Hellmonger@Trilogy: infowars even 
Fri Aug 14 21:09:02 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: go to mexico 
Fri Aug 14 21:09:09 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: oh wait, you're in mexico! 
Fri Aug 14 21:09:30 2009 [dchat] Tricky@Rock the Halo: Infomars... Ooo... Could make a great game. 
Fri Aug 14 22:16:05 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: looks like I have a bunch to change in the skill/stat system... gonna be messy 
Fri Aug 14 23:56:41 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: it scares me 
Fri Aug 14 23:56:47 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: SEE. IT. 
Fri Aug 14 23:56:55 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: seeing all those GALAXIES in a tiny spot of darkness in our sky :( 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:03 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Imagine how many there really are 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:07 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: makes me feel insignificant 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:11 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: My 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:16 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: does that too 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:17 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: SEE IT 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:24 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i have 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:29 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: in #d 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:33 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: They do athing at the end 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:37 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Using the red shift 
Fri Aug 14 23:57:41 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Fly through it 
Fri Aug 14 23:58:05 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: makes you wonder why you bother with anything other than personal gratification 
Fri Aug 14 23:59:22 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: Skip to the 3D model at 2:58 
Fri Aug 14 23:59:25 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: IF you want 
Fri Aug 14 23:59:32 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: seeing it now 
Fri Aug 14 23:59:40 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: 100 billion galaxies 
Fri Aug 14 23:59:47 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: each containing billions of stars 
Sat Aug 15 00:00:01 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: aint' no way we're alone here 
Sat Aug 15 00:00:04 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: ain't no way 
Sat Aug 15 00:00:12 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: ain't no way we'll find anyone else either 
Sat Aug 15 00:00:15 2009 [dchat] Sinistrad@Dead Souls Dev: yup 
Sat Aug 15 00:17:38 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: Kal that is why Bertrand Russel died a bitter angry old man 
Sat Aug 15 00:18:45 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: crap I can't spell Bertrand Russell... 
Sat Aug 15 00:55:17 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: Kal is why someone died bitter? 
Sat Aug 15 01:02:30 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: LOL 
Sat Aug 15 01:08:00 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Just hope it stays that way... if we ever meet a space-faring race, they'll be so vastly different and more evolved than us, that we'll look like a rather interesting new species of insect to them.  The question will be, do they stick us in a glass jar, or just clean the planet with a bug bomb. :) 
Sun Aug 16 19:11:43 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Anybody knows a way to fix that popular mouse damage, when the wheelbutton sends two click events? 
Sun Aug 16 19:12:01 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Like, can I replace the microswitch, or is it sth more problematic? 
Sun Aug 16 19:12:57 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Hmmmm, have you cleaned all the gunk out of the wheel assembly itself? 
Sun Aug 16 19:13:43 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Not counting the lubricant-style crap... yes. 
Sun Aug 16 19:14:08 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: it seems to me very much like electrical. 
Sun Aug 16 19:14:30 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: The switch loses the contact halfway thru the move or sth, and thus closes the circuit twice. 
Sun Aug 16 19:14:37 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Doesn't happen always. 
Sun Aug 16 19:14:38 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Ok, I was asking because sometimes the spring that the wheel uses will cause it to "bounce". 
Sun Aug 16 19:15:52 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: If it is the switch, it probably depends on how handy you are at soldering board-level stuff, and how hard it would be to find the right size switch. 
Sun Aug 16 19:16:47 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: I did solder some PCBs in my life, but the switch is of the kinds that i ever saw only in mice. 
Sun Aug 16 19:16:54 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: anyway, thanks. 
Sun Aug 16 19:30:03 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: some stuff like that, you can use a pencil erasor to clean the contacts. 
Sun Aug 16 20:23:38 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: I would think the danger with mice or keyboards is you could rapidly run up enough in labor and supplies to make just buying a new one a better idea.  Unless it's a gold-plated theme mouse, of course. 
Mon Aug 17 16:22:36 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: anyone know anything about the C type 'long long'? 
Mon Aug 17 16:23:34 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: sizeof(long long) yields 8, so one would think it's 64 bits wide, yes?  But "long long foo = 1 << 40;" generates a warning. 
Mon Aug 17 16:24:15 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: oh.  it's the 1 that it thinks is an int.  nvm. 
Mon Aug 17 20:21:21 2009 [dchat] Vardogr@Legacies of Ora: Is inews spamming anyone else today? 
Mon Aug 17 20:27:33 2009 [dchat] Newt@ShadowMUDii Dev: isn't it always spammy? (I turned it off 5 mins after getting it) 
Mon Aug 17 20:36:57 2009 [dchat] Vardogr@Legacies of Ora: The issue for me seems to be that today it is continually sending the same last 7 news items, all at once, every 3-5 minutes or so. 
Mon Aug 17 20:37:52 2009 [dchat] Newt@ShadowMUDii Dev: wow, that sucks more than usual 
Mon Aug 17 20:41:25 2009 [dchat] Vardogr@Legacies of Ora: Yeah, it`s the weirdest thing... I was wondering if it might just be my mud`s router though. XD I`m on coffeemud and SVN head, so there`s always weird things that can go wrong. XD 
Mon Aug 17 20:42:01 2009 [dchat] Vardogr@Legacies of Ora: Although the fact that I can talk normally on this channel would suggest otherwise, come to think of it. 
Tue Aug 18 19:20:21 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev sighs. 
Tue Aug 18 19:20:23 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev . o O ( JSR 777074 ) 
Tue Aug 18 19:27:07 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: howdy y 
Tue Aug 18 19:27:16 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: Y'all 
Tue Aug 18 19:28:57 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Eh... better say what's up on your end. 
Tue Aug 18 19:43:24 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev chuckles 
Tue Aug 18 19:44:31 2009 [dchat] Apache@FizzyMUD: Yo 
Tue Aug 18 19:46:17 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: sup 
Tue Aug 18 19:47:01 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: I asked first! 
Tue Aug 18 19:47:16 2009 [dchat] Wodan@Discworld: discworld's up! 
Tue Aug 18 19:47:31 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: not! I asked about ten minutes ago 
Tue Aug 18 19:47:43 2009 [dchat] Drakkos@Discworld: Up what? 
Tue Aug 18 19:47:52 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Then i said "nothing, and at your end?" 
Tue Aug 18 19:47:54 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: yours? 
Tue Aug 18 19:48:06 2009 [dchat] Drakkos@Discworld: Wow, tough room 
Tue Aug 18 19:48:13 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: lol 
Tue Aug 18 19:48:44 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: So, nothing much here either. 
Tue Aug 18 19:48:53 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: just hanging 
Tue Aug 18 19:49:16 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: just trying to stay cool. 
Tue Aug 18 19:49:50 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: Well, the ac is doing all the work....... 
Tue Aug 18 19:52:12 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: grats Diskworld folks! 
Tue Aug 18 19:53:48 2009 [dchat] Keegan@Micropolis: what about the rest of us? That was a little unfair. 
Tue Aug 18 19:59:04 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: wekk keegan, did you get your mud up? 
Tue Aug 18 19:59:19 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: 'well' even... 
Tue Aug 18 19:59:21 2009 [dchat] Drakkos@Discworld: Up what? :-D 
Tue Aug 18 20:00:08 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: wodan said, "discworld's up"  I said grats  keegan would like some grats to come his way 
Tue Aug 18 20:03:32 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: HCF 
Tue Aug 18 20:29:49 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: JFCL 0 
Tue Aug 18 20:37:20 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: nothing beats HCF 
Tue Aug 18 20:41:26 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: But that worked only on motorolas 
Tue Aug 18 20:41:48 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: coolest ... instruction ... EVER 
Tue Aug 18 20:42:28 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: What about that execute instruction on ibm... 1401? 
Tue Aug 18 20:42:43 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: the one that was in user mode but could lock the machine hard? 
Tue Aug 18 20:42:56 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: does it catch fire? 
Tue Aug 18 20:42:59 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: do you had to wave magent over the core memory? 
Tue Aug 18 20:43:11 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: magnet 
Tue Aug 18 20:43:15 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: if fire isn't involved, it fails 
Tue Aug 18 20:43:43 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: No, well... fire was more complex, and usually involved a peripheral. 
Tue Aug 18 20:43:51 2009 [dchat] Raudhrskal@Dead Souls Dev: Exploding teletypes were funny. 
Wed Aug 19 03:10:37 2009 [dchat] Tsarenzi@Sremassande: Hm, hm.  Think I've got the alchemy system all polished off.  Now where do I want to post it to share. 
Wed Aug 19 13:51:32 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: For embellishments, I'd just make them recipies that have earlier finished products as a material, and result in a new product.  So, you can add an embellishment, but to change one, you'd have to first remove the current one (giving you back the original product). 
Wed Aug 19 13:55:45 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i'm self taught so your jargon wont help much 
Wed Aug 19 13:56:32 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines begins speaking Technobabel. 
Wed Aug 19 13:57:59 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: That would be a fun filter to add... randomly replace nouns with hardware devices. :) 
Wed Aug 19 14:00:09 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Hey, want to go throw a few fireballs as some kobolds -> Hey, want to go throw a few SH-S223B-OEM's at some WD6401AALS's? 
Wed Aug 19 14:00:32 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: I may have just defined the Gnomish language. 
Wed Aug 19 14:00:52 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: /dev/sda1'm not sure that /dev/random helps 
Wed Aug 19 14:01:50 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: that chick has 5 1/4 inch floppies! 
Wed Aug 19 14:02:04 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: and Big Blue eyes! 
Wed Aug 19 14:02:43 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: 5 1/4" surely that's less than a bsh 
Wed Aug 19 14:03:06 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: maybe they're double sided, double density? 
Wed Aug 19 14:03:28 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: cwap...they're read only. 
Wed Aug 19 14:03:39 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: It might make a difference it that's radius vs. circumferance too. 
Wed Aug 19 14:03:41 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: what are the filled with? mecury? 
Wed Aug 19 14:04:12 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: dunno, lemme see if she floats in water... 
Wed Aug 19 14:04:14 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole was assuming diameter 
Wed Aug 19 14:04:16 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: hmmm... 
Wed Aug 19 14:04:20 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: WITCH!!!! 
Wed Aug 19 14:04:41 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: hold on if they are mecury we don't wanna burn her 
Wed Aug 19 14:04:47 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines looks around for the duck. 
Wed Aug 19 14:05:18 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole secretly whips out his duck call and lets out a few quacks 
Wed Aug 19 14:05:32 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: magic wand purification time. 
Wed Aug 19 14:05:48 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: Who let the docs out, quack! quack! 
Wed Aug 19 14:05:59 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: I be quiet now. 
Wed Aug 19 14:06:28 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: Purification eh?  Is that what kids call it these days? 
Wed Aug 19 14:07:10 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: is that waht we used to called knob cleaning? 
Wed Aug 19 14:08:11 2009 [dchat] Quixadhal@Bloodlines: *Butthead voice* I've got a charmed longstaff... Huh, huh, huh. 
Wed Aug 19 14:09:13 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole casts gigantic ale quaff then launches into a rendition of "The wizard's staff has a knob on the end." 
Wed Aug 19 16:04:25 2009 [dchat] Damouze@Way of the Force: Does it? 
Wed Aug 19 16:04:43 2009 [dchat] Damouze@Way of the Force: Have a knob on the end I mean... :P 
Wed Aug 19 16:18:13 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: that's how you know it's a wizard's staff 
Thu Aug 20 15:04:56 2009 [dchat] Detah@Dead Souls Dev: good morning 
Thu Aug 20 15:05:03 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: agreed. 
Thu Aug 20 15:05:22 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: hey D hey Hamlet. 
Thu Aug 20 15:05:47 2009 [dchat] John@Dungeon Wars: Hi. 
Thu Aug 20 15:14:37 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: it is neither morning, nor good. But I wish you a good morning nonetheless 
Thu Aug 20 15:14:50 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: if wishes were frogs... 
Thu Aug 20 15:15:04 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: they'd hop away? 
Thu Aug 20 15:16:09 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: that makes more sense than what I was going to say.  so we'll go with it. 
Thu Aug 20 15:16:58 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole tries to catch flies with his tongue 
Fri Aug 21 08:19:00 2009 [dchat] Nilrin@Rebirth: Quiet night. 
Fri Aug 21 16:53:02 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: http://xkcd.com/224/ 
Fri Aug 21 16:56:23 2009 [dchat] Sys@BlackHole: sounds about right 
Sat Aug 22 00:43:00 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev loves it when code compiles the first time 
Sat Aug 22 00:43:13 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: how about executes correctly? 
Sat Aug 22 00:43:28 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: still have to update my graphics but we will see 
Sat Aug 22 00:52:20 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: yeaaa correct execution as well 
Sat Aug 22 00:52:31 2009 [dchat] Vlad@Other_World_Dev: time to archive and let my tester have at it 
Sat Aug 22 11:25:20 2009 [dchat] Tsarenzi@Sremassande: Oof.  That's frustrating.  Updating the base file, but forgetting to update the inheriting file, because you didn't change it... and so the changes to the base file don't affect it. 
Sat Aug 22 16:40:34 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: is this on? 
Sat Aug 22 16:40:56 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: nope. 
Sat Aug 22 16:41:02 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: thanks, Ninja. 
Sat Aug 22 16:41:15 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: now I'm in America, not Australia. 
Sat Aug 22 16:41:18 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: Any time, Blood Wolf...that's what I'm here for. 
Sat Aug 22 16:41:31 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: all the food is weird. 
Sat Aug 22 16:41:38 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: but theres lots of it 
Sat Aug 22 16:41:45 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: And I'm in Australia now...didn't ya see me wave at ya when we passed? 
Sat Aug 22 16:42:07 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: stop that...tickles. 
Sat Aug 22 16:42:14 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: nope. I flew from Sydney to LA then to Dallas, then to Lawton. 
Sat Aug 22 16:42:15 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: no fingering. 
Sat Aug 22 16:42:19 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: ok 
Sat Aug 22 16:42:30 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: oh, cwap...I went around the world the wrong way. 
Sat Aug 22 16:42:43 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: lol 
Sat Aug 22 16:42:54 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: wonder who I waved at. 
Sat Aug 22 16:43:35 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: maybe the "ghost plane" as in ghost ship. 
Sat Aug 22 16:43:45 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: ur gonna be haunted for the rest of your life! 
Sat Aug 22 16:43:48 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: lol 
Sat Aug 22 16:44:57 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: hard to find vegemite in america 
Sat Aug 22 16:45:31 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: (thank god) 
Sat Aug 22 16:46:26 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: I love Vegemite! 
Sat Aug 22 16:47:03 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: do you come from a land down under? 
Sat Aug 22 16:47:09 2009 [dchat] Kalinash@Fire and Ice: where women blow and men plunder? 
Sat Aug 22 16:47:28 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: And she asked me for a vegemite sandwich. Yes, I do. 
Sat Aug 22 17:35:45 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: the only song (as far as I know) about flatulence ever.  amazing it was a hit. 
Sat Aug 22 17:39:03 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: owner of a lonely fart? 
Sat Aug 22 17:39:50 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: jumping jack flash? 
Sat Aug 22 17:41:41 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: ok.  with the exception of those.  but, seriously... "I come from the land down under... can't you hear can't you hear that thunder?" 
Sat Aug 22 17:48:48 2009 [dchat] Blood Wolf@The Lost Technology: it means tropical storms. bye 
Sat Aug 22 18:57:48 2009 [dchat] Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: lol 
Sat Aug 22 20:04:46 2009 [dchat] Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: man, take a nap, miss all the fun. 
Mon Aug 24 03:58:40 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: well 
Mon Aug 24 03:58:45 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i appreciate that sentiment 
Mon Aug 24 03:58:57 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: but there's other stuff that's proven its reliability for longer 
Mon Aug 24 03:59:22 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: I'm basing it on experience, really. 
Mon Aug 24 03:59:25 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: the E3000 for example, thos long in the tooth and dead slow by todays standards 
Mon Aug 24 03:59:31 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: is rock solid 
Mon Aug 24 03:59:39 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: and the old LX's? 
Mon Aug 24 03:59:48 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i think you could drop them in a swamp for a week 
Mon Aug 24 03:59:54 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Well, the LX's ... that's getting pretty long in the tooth. 
Mon Aug 24 03:59:55 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: come back, hose em off 
Mon Aug 24 03:59:59 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: theyd still work 
Mon Aug 24 04:00:10 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: They tend to blow power supplies though. 
Mon Aug 24 04:00:16 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: and I've had clock board failures on E3000s. 
Mon Aug 24 04:00:19 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: heh 
Mon Aug 24 04:00:29 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Although I've still got my E3000 sitting in the corner, I should power it up some time soon for old time's sake. 
Mon Aug 24 04:00:31 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: only cuz you used the old speed clocks 
Mon Aug 24 04:00:38 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you need to stop 
Mon Aug 24 04:00:45 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: im not supposed to like people 
Mon Aug 24 04:00:50 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i have a reputation to maintain 
Mon Aug 24 04:01:00 2009 [dchat] Atrus@Urth: got a new boyfriend there Cratty? 
Mon Aug 24 04:01:08 2009 [dchat] Hamlet@WWC: 'sokay, Crat.  You can rest in the confidence that *we* don't like *you*. 
Mon Aug 24 04:01:09 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Just remember to shake your fist from time to time. 
Mon Aug 24 04:01:10 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: >:| 
Mon Aug 24 04:01:16 2009 [dchat] Atrus@Urth grins stupidly. 
Mon Aug 24 04:01:17 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: :) 
Mon Aug 24 04:02:35 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Out of a fleet of over a hundred V880s though, the only failures I had in three years were dead disks and faulty DIMMs from a bad batch. 
Mon Aug 24 04:02:42 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: and the DIMMs were correctable errors only. 
Mon Aug 24 04:02:53 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i'm not a fan of the board swap design 
Mon Aug 24 04:03:04 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's the same problem the old ultrasparcII had 
Mon Aug 24 04:03:17 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you need to use voodoo to be sure it seats right 
Mon Aug 24 04:03:19 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: that's not cool 
Mon Aug 24 04:03:21 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Just have to remember to tap 'em with a hammer in the centre of the SB and then give the screws another quarter-turn 
Mon Aug 24 04:03:29 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: ok whot is this 
Mon Aug 24 04:03:37 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: yer gonna gimme nightmares 
Mon Aug 24 04:04:12 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: If you do enough of them, you can replace a backplane in under three minutes ... 
Mon Aug 24 04:04:40 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: yeah you get attached to quirky stuff if you do it enough 
Mon Aug 24 04:04:51 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i actually really like the 3300 and 35x0 
Mon Aug 24 04:04:58 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: people call me crazy 
Mon Aug 24 04:05:11 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you just get affectionate to something that's held you hostage for days 
Mon Aug 24 04:05:12 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Well, they kept us all busy doing firmware upgrades weekly for a while ... 
Mon Aug 24 04:05:19 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: stockholm syndrome maybe 
Mon Aug 24 04:05:39 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: WHO ARE YOU 
Mon Aug 24 04:06:02 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: I'm the sucker that spent too long in telcos looking after UNIX machines. 
Mon Aug 24 04:06:17 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: well my next beer is in your honor sir 
Mon Aug 24 04:06:33 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Mmm, beer. It *is* almost that time. 
Mon Aug 24 04:07:52 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Nice mudlib, by the way - was exactly what I needed. 
Mon Aug 24 04:08:34 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Hmmm, looks like I might get a chance to snag an E2900. 
Mon Aug 24 04:08:44 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: That'd make a nice addition to the collection. 
Mon Aug 24 04:09:01 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i like the internal jbod guys like that but 
Mon Aug 24 04:09:09 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: running them at home is a bit much 
Mon Aug 24 04:09:51 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Well, consolidation got all trendy, so I turned my E250s and V210s into a V880. 
Mon Aug 24 04:10:05 2009 [dchat] Atrus@Urth: later all I'm going to play some CoD 
Mon Aug 24 04:10:09 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: I'm used to it purring away now. Can't imagine using a baby machine any more. 
Mon Aug 24 04:10:35 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: in terms of noise and power consumption, i'd rather run something like a niagara/huron/etc and use some crappy intel linus box for nfs storage 
Mon Aug 24 04:11:39 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Well, I have a T2000, but I only ever use it for LDOMs lab configs because it's just so damn noisy. 
Mon Aug 24 04:12:01 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: My only beef with the daktari was filling all the internal bays and needing more storage, so I did this ... http://mexico.purplecow.org/index.php/Taco_SATA_Drives 
Mon Aug 24 04:12:03 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: all my suns are too noisy 
Mon Aug 24 04:12:18 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: but yeah the t2000 and their cousins are crazy loud 
Mon Aug 24 04:12:32 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: dealt with a rack of 5120's recently 
Mon Aug 24 04:12:37 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: had to wear earplugs 
Mon Aug 24 04:12:40 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's just insane 
Mon Aug 24 04:13:00 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: I'm on the hunt for a Huron or Maramba, but they're not exactly being given away yet. 
Mon Aug 24 04:14:24 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: cupla months ago i was workin on these 6250 blades 
Mon Aug 24 04:14:56 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: place had 10 racks of em 
Mon Aug 24 04:15:07 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: The noise must have been insane ... 
Mon Aug 24 04:15:11 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: theres this firmware bug 
Mon Aug 24 04:15:21 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: makes the fans run at 100% ALL THE TIME 
Mon Aug 24 04:15:29 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: you cannot imagine the racket 
Mon Aug 24 04:15:43 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: Have you heard the M-series yet? The noise is quite amazing. 
Mon Aug 24 04:15:52 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: wut the OPL 
Mon Aug 24 04:15:57 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: yeh theyre noisy 
Mon Aug 24 04:16:07 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: I work from home and had an M4000 shipped over here for build 
Mon Aug 24 04:16:11 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: was just messin with a cupla M5000 
Mon Aug 24 04:16:19 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i like em but 
Mon Aug 24 04:16:21 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: yknow 
Mon Aug 24 04:16:25 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: fujitsu 
Mon Aug 24 04:16:27 2009 [dchat] Eltari@Porphyra: and fired it up in the loungeroom ... I ended up parking at the cafe around the corner and working remotely. 
Mon Aug 24 04:16:38 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: theyre fast but touchy 
Mon Aug 24 04:17:10 2009 [dchat] Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: and i really havent fallen in like yer with the partitioning system 
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