Sun Nov 15 01:54:17 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: I use some uhh... 'virtual something' application in XP and I guess it kinda works. Sometimes.
Mon Nov 16 01:12:31 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ethicalman/2009/11/time_to_eat_the_pets.html
Mon Nov 16 16:17:28 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: "The referenced account is currently locked out and cannot be logged onto."
Mon Nov 16 20:56:29 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: don't you hate it when resolve() only seems to work when you're watching?
Mon Nov 16 20:57:00 2009
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Bardioc@Evermore: *smirk* for that, I'd need to know what resolve() actualy does ;-)
Mon Nov 16 21:07:31 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: resolve - resolve an internet address to domain name
Mon Nov 16 21:15:44 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I have a strong suspicion that resolve is actually returning prior to the function that calls it completing... not good.
Mon Nov 16 21:30:10 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: right. async. so it returns a token to your code and later calls a function with that token to tell you how it all turned out.\
Mon Nov 16 21:30:27 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: it if calls the function _before_ returning the token, that's obviously a problem.
Mon Nov 16 21:30:44 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i'll have to look at the code again, but i believe it just associates the string (resolved name) with the connection object
Mon Nov 16 21:31:29 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: W, I don't _know_ that's happening yet. I just have unexplained behavior and I've stared at my code long enough that I _think_ the code is correct. Will do more validating tonight.
Mon Nov 16 21:32:03 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: you can't get a callback before the current function finishes
Mon Nov 16 21:32:21 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: single-threaded doesn't matter. resolve() branches into the "OS". Whether the "OS" does the apply before returning back to the code it was running is a design decision.
Mon Nov 16 21:33:02 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: it uses a socket connection to the addr_server to request a resolve
Mon Nov 16 21:33:19 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: later on in the backend loop the driver reads responses and updates the connection object
Mon Nov 16 21:33:40 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: the OS can't callback to lpc anyway, that would be magic :)
Mon Nov 16 21:33:53 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: the socket code in general had a race condition of the OS returns results immediately. ancient UNIXes never did. newer ones can.
Mon Nov 16 21:34:47 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: bring up the addr_server in gdb and put a breakpoint in there
Mon Nov 16 21:35:11 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: do it on solaris and use dtrace on the whole thing :)
Mon Nov 16 21:35:25 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: this is idle speculation for now. I just know my code works fine without the intermediate resolve() and breaks if I put the resolve() in.
Mon Nov 16 21:35:47 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: and that in principle the code itself is fine. Or so I believe after staring at it for hours.
Mon Nov 16 21:37:53 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: oh, nothing special. given ipname:port, resolve, connect, fetch things, report results.
Mon Nov 16 21:38:48 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: however, "concurrency" is an issue, so mp[resolve()] = ({ data }); is needed to keep track of multiple ones in flight.
Mon Nov 16 21:54:41 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: but resolve() doesn't directly return anything useful
Mon Nov 16 21:59:36 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: eval return ({ resolve("192.168.0.1", "foo"), resolve("192.168.0.1", "foo"), resolve("192.168.0.1", "foo) });
Mon Nov 16 22:01:10 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: eval return ({ resolve("192.168.0.1", "foo"), resolve("192.168.0.1", "foo"), resolve("192.168.0.1", "foo") });
Mon Nov 16 22:01:42 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: right. just showing K that the number *does* vary.
Mon Nov 16 22:10:07 2009
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Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: following this conversation, why am I having flashbacks to the "Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers"?
Mon Nov 16 22:18:41 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I would assume it increments within the existing pending calls.
Mon Nov 16 22:18:59 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: it's just that with a same-host address server, it's not like there should be many pending.
Mon Nov 16 22:20:53 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I would assume there'd be no harm in letting it increment forever. when it reaches roll-over, either the low numbers are completely irrelevant or your lib is doing something incredibly wrong.
Mon Nov 16 22:23:11 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: depends on it being the index in some array or not :)
Mon Nov 16 22:23:38 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: oh no, you'd need a table to track the mappings
Mon Nov 16 22:24:23 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: we were talking TOKENS, not implementation, Wodan!
Mon Nov 16 22:27:39 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: some mud may have noticed and use an array in the lpc side of things!
Mon Nov 16 22:29:10 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: well, until we have a multithreaded driver. then there are problems.
Mon Nov 16 22:30:27 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: no. I'll nag again. or maybe just start looking at it as soon as I'm doine with this resolve() thing.
Mon Nov 16 22:31:03 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: and I really do want pcre for xml parsing anyway :P
Mon Nov 16 22:32:38 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: except for doing them properly needing a grammar instead :)
Mon Nov 16 22:33:34 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: oh, I'm uninterested in the grammar verification bit. I want something relatively simple and haven't figured out how simple I can go.
Mon Nov 16 22:34:00 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: BUT, what I do what are control over capture groups.
Mon Nov 16 22:34:31 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: reg_assoc can do that, if you write some extra code :)
Mon Nov 16 22:34:53 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: yeah. it's the 'extra code' part I'm trying to avoid!
Mon Nov 16 22:35:04 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I can do it without regexp at all. just don't wanna.
Mon Nov 16 23:44:44 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: I wish there were a way to do capture groups with regexps...
Mon Nov 16 23:50:58 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: I'm just waiting for them to be made turing complete so I don't have to use anything else.
Mon Nov 16 23:51:35 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Having said that, I wouldn't be suprised if perl had something added to its regular expressions to make it so...
Tue Nov 17 01:28:11 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: there *are* capture groups in regexes. as far as I know they're only here and on one other testmud :P And they have a negative impact on the stability of a mud.
Tue Nov 17 01:30:19 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: How do they work? some kind of special variable?
Tue Nov 17 01:32:58 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: What I was interested in is a way to get access to the capture buffer outside of the regular expresison
Tue Nov 17 01:35:00 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Goodness my perl is rusty. Its like trying to memorise white noise.
Tue Nov 17 02:04:26 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: so repeat after me: tell volothamp Please hurry up and finish PCRE. We need it.
Tue Nov 17 02:16:16 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: This is possibly a good time to ask if people know if there is a way to do variable length sequences is old mudos regexps?
Tue Nov 17 02:16:48 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Like, right now i want to match 'aaa' or 'aaaa'. The syntax some regexps use is 'a{3,4}' (I think)
Tue Nov 17 02:21:37 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Huh. Interesting 'portable scripts should avoid { in grep -E'
Tue Nov 17 03:13:04 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Another regexp one... Sorry... Does order matter in a | separated list? That is, are the regexps A|B and B|A equal?
Tue Nov 17 03:13:51 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: To rephrase, why does this return t (swapping the | separated bits returns testing): eval mixed a,x=sscanf("testing", "%(.|(....+))", a); write(":"+a+":")
Tue Nov 17 03:14:05 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Either its a bug or my understanding needs correcting.
Tue Nov 17 03:14:54 2009
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Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: since when does sscanf support regular expressions?
Tue Nov 17 03:15:32 2009
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Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i dont think the c version on which it is based supports it either
Tue Nov 17 03:17:08 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Hmm. I think its been in mudos as long as I've used it.
Tue Nov 17 03:18:09 2009
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Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: it does support regular expressions but the support is kind of meh
Tue Nov 17 03:19:35 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Its certainly included in the sscanf efun. I don't know if its just been thoughtlessly hacked in but its there and I've used it before
Tue Nov 17 03:21:35 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Maybe. Its kind of like it jumped at the first match rather than being greedy. Which is odd.
Tue Nov 17 03:21:56 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: not _all_ regex operations are greedy, just most. maybe the | is lazy.
Tue Nov 17 03:22:41 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Like... right now, I'm trying to match every line which -doesn't- match a given string...
Tue Nov 17 03:34:19 2009
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Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: i dont think an or match like that is usually greedy
Tue Nov 17 03:34:37 2009
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Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: or union usually it's only kleene star i think.
Tue Nov 17 03:35:16 2009
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Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: though i was surprised that pcre parses some wierd stuff which isnt even strictly regular i dont think
Tue Nov 17 03:36:38 2009
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Silenus@Dead Souls Dev: so what you have stated *I think* is somewhat ambiguous
Tue Nov 17 05:18:08 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: guh. I blame Wodan. Or, you know, someone before Wodan.
Tue Nov 17 05:23:45 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: turned out not to be a weird resolve() race, at least.
Tue Nov 17 05:24:14 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: instead, it turns out that unbound sockets get reclaimed _immediately_, which is a compat buster from MudOS.
Tue Nov 17 05:26:28 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I was doing socket_create(), then calling resolve() and returning the fd to the calling function as a "here's your token". The callback for resolve() was responsible for socket_bind() and socket_connect(), but by then the socket had been recovered.
Tue Nov 17 05:26:48 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I wonder if moving socket_bind() further forward will solve the problem...
Tue Nov 17 15:30:36 2009
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Detah@Dead Souls Dev: its raining here. temp is dropping daily now. I fear I have seen the last warm day for the year.
Tue Nov 17 15:51:05 2009
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Nafe@The Pussy Cat Forest: nice to have a day here that is a little cooler, australia is having like a heat wave atm it sucks
Tue Nov 17 15:51:39 2009
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Nafe@The Pussy Cat Forest: i live in the mountains in tasmania for gods sake and im still thinking of moving where its colder
Tue Nov 17 15:51:55 2009
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Nafe@The Pussy Cat Forest: aparently global warming is supposed to send the UK into like an ice age
Tue Nov 17 20:59:56 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: sheesh. I just tried to edit something with 'ed' in a unix shell.
Tue Nov 17 21:18:39 2009
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Detah@Dead Souls Dev: whos ed and why is he trying to kill m[&4 [$4 [$4Q)uit without saving, save and ex)it, h)elp
Tue Nov 17 21:52:45 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: well, I always use ed or ex to edit the Makefile for 'joe' when i first login to a new account. after that, though, there's really no need.
Tue Nov 17 22:14:29 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: there could be no doubt about that after reading the ed manpage that comes with emacs
Tue Nov 17 22:23:25 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: not sure I've ever done that. any time I get stuck in emacs or vi, I find C-z followed by kill -9 works pretty well.
Tue Nov 17 23:01:21 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: ok! so if I post a daemon that knows how to fetch WHOIS information from appropriate servers, will someone write the code so it'll recurse on .com domains?
Tue Nov 17 23:04:42 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Emacs is C-x C-c to exit. Vi seems to be some combination of hitting Esc : q! and crying
Tue Nov 17 23:05:53 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: I've got to admit that I tend to use 'cat >> ...' until I can use emacs
Tue Nov 17 23:06:11 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i'll use emacs when i'm dead and burning in hell
Tue Nov 17 23:07:00 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I thought pico sucked until I got inflicted with nano.
Tue Nov 17 23:07:55 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: Admittedly that niche is providing a means to edit config until emacs can be downloaded
Tue Nov 17 23:14:00 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: I'm actually tempted to file a bug report on emacs 'C-Z should print "lol! nice try!" in the minibuffer, as per C-C'
Tue Nov 17 23:19:35 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: ok! must be yabbadabba time. THANK YOU WATERTOWN GOOD NIGHT!.
Wed Nov 18 22:28:20 2009
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Bob@Ceratonia: Does anyone know where the output of the prompt is controlled in DS? I've got my prompt acting up on Mushclient, displaying as a solid gray bar. Not sure it isn't returning an ANSI string it doesn't like.
Wed Nov 18 22:39:43 2009
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Bob@Ceratonia: It's literally a gray bar... I can't read anything in Ed either
Wed Nov 18 22:41:53 2009
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Bob@Ceratonia: Hmm, must be something on this player object - because the test char is normal
Wed Nov 18 22:41:55 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: ive had other people using mushclient complain about prompt things but i can never reproduce it
Wed Nov 18 22:42:19 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i think mushclient tries to be too clever without telling you
Wed Nov 18 22:43:44 2009
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Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: both char objects using the same terminal type, as far as the mud is concerned?
Wed Nov 18 22:45:32 2009
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Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: if not, quit the problem char and relog...see if that fixes some sorta glitch.
Wed Nov 18 22:46:44 2009
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Bob@Ceratonia: Encre'd -- Relogged and still no problem on the test char. Relogging on this character does not resolve the bar
Wed Nov 18 22:47:09 2009
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Bob@Ceratonia: on Putty - I can see my prompt/output just fine. It's just on mushclient, on this character which is kinda freak
Thu Nov 19 16:29:45 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: whoa. I just never had any idea how important caching was to apache's performance.
Thu Nov 19 17:15:09 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice sets up the biohazard signs and quarantines the area.
Fri Nov 20 12:31:05 2009
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Nafe@The Pussy Cat Forest: a stripped bare public domain dead souls lib with nothing left other than the mud and intermud chat and mudmail.
Fri Nov 20 12:31:59 2009
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Nafe@The Pussy Cat Forest: i have to put a chat program on someones website and this is how i am approaching it, does anyone already have someting like this?
Fri Nov 20 12:32:27 2009
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Nafe@The Pussy Cat Forest: i am going to use anyterm to offer the web to mud interface etc
Fri Nov 20 12:37:15 2009
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Charles@The Pussy Cat Forest: Why not just run some java chat thing
Fri Nov 20 12:39:00 2009
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Nafe@The Pussy Cat Forest: i eaither have to pay a fee or set up some serious stuff i am just not willing to do coz its outa my league
Fri Nov 20 13:06:23 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i think the stripped down mud you describe is dead souls I
Fri Nov 20 13:07:17 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: it's barely modified from the originally released 1.1
Fri Nov 20 13:07:30 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: just fixed up to compile, the rest is on you
Fri Nov 20 13:08:22 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: hello charles. please note this channel and the i3 network has fascist rules which i enforce
Fri Nov 20 13:08:59 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: since your mud is already operating under a yellow card, it would take only the most casual violation to pull a red one
Fri Nov 20 13:09:51 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: well normally people like fascisting, not being fascisted
Fri Nov 20 13:10:20 2009
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Charles@The Pussy Cat Forest: I'm not sure what you said, but I'm sure it was witty :)
Fri Nov 20 13:13:21 2009
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Charles@The Pussy Cat Forest: Is there a command to see a channels history?
Fri Nov 20 13:17:04 2009
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Charles@The Pussy Cat Forest: I'm doing a bachelor of computer science over the next couple of years which has a pretty strong c/c++ focus, so I'm hoping to get into some mud stuff.
Fri Nov 20 13:19:52 2009
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Ninja@Dead Souls Dev: start with a chat server, object-oriented code.
Fri Nov 20 15:03:20 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I've got to say that chat servers are much easier to write in "owned" languages with large code libraries such as Java or C#. C++ is just plain missing some stuff that is useful for the task.
Fri Nov 20 15:51:09 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: anyone know anything about accounting? What's "untotalized data"? Sounds like something W would say. I know *I* feel threaterizificated by untotalized data.
Fri Nov 20 19:13:52 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: anyone had any problems with A-1 international as a distribution agent for amazon.com?
Fri Nov 20 19:27:18 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: oh well. my package is "out for delivery", but the nearest A-1 seems to come to me is New Jersey. So "out for delivery" means they'll get here maybe at 7 or 8 tonight. seems unlikely I'll still be at work to receive the package.
Fri Nov 20 19:28:10 2009
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Fizban@Dead Souls Dev: what's wrong with that crat? Or nthing and that's just a random fact for the day?
Fri Nov 20 19:28:53 2009
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Fizban@Dead Souls Dev: Thought so as hmm, was pretty sure orange peel is actually healthier than the rest of the orange IIRC
Fri Nov 20 19:29:21 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: in the sense that you can't digest most of it, yep
Fri Nov 20 19:29:59 2009
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Fizban@Dead Souls Dev: Hmm, thought oranges were one of the fruits they suggested juicing because the skin was actually healthy, no?
Fri Nov 20 19:30:54 2009
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Wodan@Discworld: moderate amounts of alcohol are good for your heart
Fri Nov 20 19:32:06 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: 2 hours and 29 minutes to boozetime for me
Fri Nov 20 19:34:22 2009
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Fizban@Dead Souls Dev: 26 days till boozetime, I'm not counting either :(
Fri Nov 20 19:35:10 2009
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Fizban@Dead Souls Dev: actually, that's a bold lie, I have a hangover right now, but 26 days till 21st birthday, so that long till legal boozetime
Fri Nov 20 19:35:17 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: he list his booze and the detective agency he employed only promised results within 30 days.
Fri Nov 20 19:36:31 2009
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Fizban@Dead Souls Dev: yeah cheeky bastards probably foundmy absinthe, drink it, then 30 days ater inform me they foundempty bottles
Fri Nov 20 19:37:15 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: that's what happens when you hire a bargain agency.
Fri Nov 20 19:37:26 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: there's a ton of these files filled with huge amounts of data, and it had to be put into a spreadsheet, and doing it by hand would have taken weeks
Fri Nov 20 19:37:51 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: so i coded up a lil lpc object to parse it all and spit out csv
Fri Nov 20 19:38:18 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: perl is well-suited for that. lpc is certainly better than by hand, though!
Fri Nov 20 19:38:35 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: yeah it wuda taken me all day to figure out the perl, i dunno it at all
Fri Nov 20 19:39:01 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: but lpc is pretty good for manipulating text
Fri Nov 20 19:41:37 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: already been doin all sortsa scripts for this project
Fri Nov 20 19:42:10 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: i just hope they dont ask me how i got that data spreadsheeted so fast
Fri Nov 20 19:44:45 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: "ohhh, this virtual machine thing. the details are technical."
Sat Nov 21 01:11:31 2009
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Tricky@Rock the Halo: I3 logs down for about an hour (or maybe less) for maintenance. Installing Apache 2.2.14
Sat Nov 21 01:26:06 2009
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Tricky@Rock the Halo: OK, that was painless. Must be something wrong somewhere. (Back up by the way)
Sat Nov 21 03:24:59 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: unfortunately, I'm not sure I recognize this power connector.
Sat Nov 21 03:34:54 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: I suppose Hamlet may have been living under a rock. :-)
Sat Nov 21 03:35:14 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: well, probably? My computer is a little (*cough*) outdated. I have a place to connect SATA ribbon, of course, or I wouldn't have bought the drive.
Sat Nov 21 03:35:48 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: You can get a molex-sata power adaptor for a couple of pounds
Sat Nov 21 03:36:06 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: yes, but I have a NEWewEWewEW hard drive! And nothing to use it with!
Sat Nov 21 03:36:37 2009
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Cratylus@Dead Souls Dev: u musta bought the "bare drive" rather than the kit
Sat Nov 21 03:37:27 2009
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Ideysus@ShadowMUDii: I dunno. Almost everything has sata power connectors now. And I'm saying this as somebody who only ever touches secondhand equipment.
Sat Nov 21 03:55:31 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: yep. pretty sure I have a drive, data ribbon, and no way to power it.
Sat Nov 21 03:57:29 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: hmmm. the old hard drive is making ominous syncing noises.
Sat Nov 21 03:58:54 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: remember the old winchester drives that you had to park the heads on before you turned them off?
Sat Nov 21 03:59:34 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: only vaguely. *my* first hard drive didn't have that issue. but friends had ones.
Sat Nov 21 04:00:13 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: the first hard drive that owned personally was a 20Meg HD on a card thing for the Tandy 1000 TX
Sat Nov 21 04:00:49 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: mine was a 40 meg on a 286. the C=64 before that only had a tape drive.
Sat Nov 21 04:01:37 2009
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Kalinash@Fire and Ice: i still have some of my old 8-bit systems that hafe tape drives :)
Sat Nov 21 04:03:08 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: I have a couple at&t 3b2's in storage. I wonder if they will even boot.
Sat Nov 21 04:24:32 2009
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Hamlet@WWC-west: apparently you can't buy a power adapter at a local store.
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